Has There Ever Been A Bigger Sellout Than Bernie Sanders?

[Self_Born7]

yep,,, every puppet they put in the whitehouse... they sell us out to wall st. and corporations...

 

[JahFocus CS]

he's playing the long game, he knows HRC isn't going to champion progressive causes

so then he can call her out later...

Bernie Sanders on voting for Bill Clinton in 1996. Give it a read, Berners.

"In terms of who to support for president, the choice is really not difficult. I am certainly not a big fan of Bill Clinton’s politics. As a strong advocate of a single-payer health care system, I opposed his convoluted health care reform package. I have helped lead the opposition to his trade policies, which represent the interests of corporate America and which are virtually indistinguishable from the views of George Bush and Newt Gingrich. I opposed his bloated military budget, the welfare reform bill that he signed, and the so-called Defense of Marriage Act, which he supported. He has been weak on campaign finance reform and has caved in far too often on the environment. Bill Clinton is a moderate Democrat. I’m a democratic socialist.
Yet, without enthusiasm, I’ve decided to support Bill Clinton for president. Perhaps “support” is too strong a word. I’m planning no press conferences to push his candidacy, and will do no campaigning for him. I will vote for him, and make that public. Why? I think that many people do not perceive how truly dangerous the political situation in this country is today. If Bob Dole were to be elected president and Gingrich and the Republicans were to maintain control of Congress, we would see a legislative agenda unlike any in the modern history of this country. There would be an unparalleled war against working people and the poor, and political decisions would be made that could very well be irreversible.
Medicare and Medicaid would certainly be destroyed, and tens of millions more Americans would lose their health insurance. Steps would be taken to privatize Social Security, and the very existence of public education in America would be threatened. Serious efforts would be made to pass a constitutional amendment to ban abortion, affirmative action would be wiped out, and gay bashing would intensify. A flat tax would be passed, resulting in a massive shift in income from the working class to the rich, and all of our major environmental legislation would be eviscerated.
The Motor Voter bill would be repealed, and legislation making it harder for people to vote would be passed. Union-busting legislation would become law, the minimum wage would be abolished, and child labor would increase. Adults and kids in America would be competing for $3.00-an-hour jobs.
You think I’m kidding. You think I’m exaggerating. Well, I’m not. I work in Congress. I listen to these guys every day. They are very serious people. And the folks behind them, the Christian Coalition, the NRA, the Heritage Foundation, and others, are even crazier than they are. My old friend dikk Armey is not some wacko member of Congress laughed at by his colleagues. He is the Majority Leader of the U.S. House of Representatives. Check out his views. No. I do not want Bob Dole to be president. I’m voting for Bill Clinton.
Do I have confidence that Clinton will stand up for the working people of this country—for children, for the elderly, for the folks who are hurting? No, I do not. But a Clinton victory could give us some time to build a movement, to develop a political infrastructure to protect what needs protecting, and to change the direction of the country."

So that was 1996... Every election is an existential crisis from which there would be no turning back if the "lesser of two evils" lost?

 

[FAH1223]

So that was 1996... Every election is an existential crisis from which there would be no turning back if the "lesser of two evils" lost?

It's the sad reality of

1. Lesser of evilsm

2. GOP controlling Congress and most state legislatures plus Gerry Mandering

3. Third wayers have controlled the Dems for 25 years

Bernie is a class act and a pro. He's much higher profiled in the Senate now and he has political capital to use should the Dems win a lot next week.

That's the difference with 1996.

 

[Trip]

He was afraid of the Clintons.

 

[Tate]

It's the sad reality of

1. Lesser of evilsm

2. GOP controlling Congress and almost state legislatures

3. Third wayers have controlled the Dems for 25 years

Bernie is a class act and a pro. He's much higher profiled in the Senate now and he has political capital to use should the Dems win a lot next week.

That's the difference with 1996.

Yep. Very well put. The federal system necessitates cooperation with the Democratic Party until such a time as the left is able to control it. This is is why electing Clinton is a good thing for the left, despite our hatred towards her. The left is indisputibly in a better position now than in 2008. It is more organized, has its own independent organizations and champions. This isn't because Obama has been worse than bush, it's because he's been insufficently better. Obama came to power with strong, enthusiastic support from traditionally left wing populations(minorities, poor, young), Clinton doesn't have that and won't get it.

In short, if 8 years of liberalism in our current situation turned a generation into social democrats, imagine what 12 will do.

 

[JahFocus CS]

It's the sad reality of

1. Lesser of evilsm

2. GOP controlling Congress and most state legislatures plus Gerry Mandering

3. Third wayers have controlled the Dems for 25 years

Bernie is a class act and a pro. He's much higher profiled in the Senate now and he has political capital to use should the Dems win a lot next week.

That's the difference with 1996.

I'm just saying that they use the same argument every election cycle regarding the Republicans

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

No, Obama is...

 

[wire28]

Probably the most gutless candidate I've seen in years. Hillary is EVERYTHING he claims to despise, and this dude completely sold out.

It's mind-boggling how he can still stand behind her after everything that has come to light, Trump being the opponent or not.

i dont know if he is gutless but he is definitely a top 3 doa cult leader. dude basically got millions of people to hate Hillary and convinced them she was everything wrong with politics, then went on to endorse her and the most of the stans didnt blink an eye. he's a politician so that should be expected. if he was truly the idealist his followers make him out to be, he would have been willing to leave Hillary on her own and stick to his principles.

but he wants a piece of the pie once Hillary is president so he acted accordingly, and left his stans out in the wind to either follow him or make excuses for him

bernie took the money from his dumbass supporters and ran

only god knows how many hublots he got off single 27 dollar donations

Trump is a lot worse than Hillary on virtually every issue. Sanders has made clear he's an incrementalist for decades. Lesser evil is less bad than the greater evil.

Me and Napoleon are actually best friends

so he is the pragmatist you all claim to hate?

so its okay for bernie to accept the lesser evil but when everybody else does it, its a problem

bernie is definitely top 3 doa cult leader, yall really worship at this mans feet he can do no wrong

 

[Tate]

i dont know if he is gutless but he is definitely a top 3 doa cult leader. dude basically got millions of people to hate Hillary and convinced them she was everything wrong with politics, then went on to endorse her and the most of the stans didnt blink an eye. he's a politician so that should be expected. if he was truly the idealist his followers make him out to be, he would have been willing to leave Hillary on her own and stick to his principles.

but he wants a piece of the pie once Hillary is president so he acted accordingly, and left his stans out in the wind to either follow him or make excuses for him



only god knows how many hublots he got off single 27 dollar donations


so he is the pragmatist you all claim to hate?

so its okay for bernie to accept the lesser evil but when everybody else does it, its a problem

bernie is definitely top 3 doa cult leader, yall really worship at this mans feet he can do no wrong

When have I ever said strategically accepting lesser evilism was wrong?

 

[ineedsleep212]

Look at the Libertarians bruhs