Hate to do this. Tariq is wrong about “gay” things being entirely western

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Tariq is wrong here about homosexuality or anything gay being exclusively western or European.
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1405529562822287370?s=21


How do we know he’s wrong, at least in the modern history?

most of the former British colonies have received recent apologies given by the British government saying that they should not have introduced Victorian anti-homosexual bills and laws. These are colonial laws. In fact countries that still have anti gay legislation were mostly former colonies!




Theresa May 'deeply regrets' UK's colonial anti-gay laws

Theresa May 'deeply regrets' UK's colonial anti-gay laws
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A gay man from Uganda, where gay sex is banned, felt the need to cover his face when seeking asylum in the US

British Prime Minister Theresa May has said she deeply regrets the UK's role in criminalising same-sex relations in its former colonies.

The laws were passed under British rule and are still used in 37 of the Commonwealth's 53 member nations.

There is a global trend towards decriminalising homosexual acts, but some countries, like Nigeria and Uganda, have imposed stricter laws.

At a Commonwealth meeting, Mrs May said laws were "wrong then and wrong now".

Same-sex relations are explicitly banned in 72 countries, according to the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA).

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"Nobody should face discrimination and persecution because of who they are or who they love," Mrs May said in London as Commonwealth leaders gather for their summit, which is held every two years.

"The UK stands ready to support any Commonwealth nation wanting to reform outdated legislation that makes such discrimination possible.

"Across the world discriminatory laws made many years ago continue to affect the lives of many people, criminalising same-sex relations and failing to protect women and girls."

The number of states that criminalise same-sex relations is decreasing annually, with Belize and the Seychelles repealing such laws in 2016.

But in many socially conservative and religious countries in Africa, where homosexuality is a taboo, there has been resistance to calls to decriminalise same-sex relationships.

South Africa, which rejoined the Commonwealth after the end of white-minority rule in 1994, is one of the exceptions.

It has one of the most liberal constitutions in the world, which protects gay rights, and was the first African country to legalise same-sex marriage in 2006.



so which is it?

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Again. Most of these anti gay laws CAME from colonials. Look at the numbers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-british-colonial-origins-of-anti-gay-laws/

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Britain apologized for its colonial-era anti-gay laws but it won't help Africa's LGBT communities

The colonial-era ‘sodomy laws’ are in place in 36 out of 53 Commonwealth nations. And they’ve remained in place for well over 60 years in many African countries with the occasional controversial update at election time. As the West has gained more knowledge on human sexuality and moved away from classifying it as disease or criminal, the UK has changed its laws, and, eventually, fully embraced marriage equality between people of the same gender.


 
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the thing is when you don't know a places history because it was largely destroyed, you can ascribe anything to it to fit whatever narrative pleases you.

I've seen posters on this forum spread false information regarding the various practices and beliefs of tribes and inhabitants of the continent Africa that conveniently aligns to their own worldviews..
 

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the thing is when you don't know a places history because it was largely destroyed, you can ascribe anything to it to fit whatever narrative pleases you.

I've seen posters on this forum spread false information regarding the various practices and beliefs of tribes and inhabitants of the continent Africa that conveniently aligns to their own worldviews..
That’s fair but we know these people kept records of everything they conquered AND control how history is told. So for them to apologize for something we literally saw for the last 600 years?

It’s proof of what THEY did.

again the only countries with the strongest anti gay bills are mostly former colonies.
 
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That’s fair but we know these people kept records of everything they conquered AND cont how history is told. So for them to apologize for something we literally saw for the last 600 years?

It’s proof of what THEY did.

again the only countries with the strongest anti gay bills are mostly former colonies.

I wasn't refuting anything you posted, just commenting in general how people have a bias lens towards what ancient Africa or Africa prior to colonization was like. That bias is fueled by ignorance born out of the large destruction it's history..
 
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I wasn't refuting anything you posted, just commenting in general how people have a bias lens towards what ancient Africa or Africa prior to colonization was like. That bias is fueled by ignorance born out of the large destruction it's history.
I will even grant that slave owners and European fascination with African sexuality and mythology led them to do abusive and revolting things including but not limited to exploitation and humiliation to their subjects but to say that’s exclusively European? I can’t roll with that in good faith.
 
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