Have ECW and Lucha Libre influences ruined modern wrestling?

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This is what happens when as Dusty Rhodes would say, "You do shyt you do not know how to do".

This is an epidemic across wrestling now.

Everybody grew up watching Lucha Libre, ECW, and New Japan and wanna do dumb shyt for no reason. :stopitslime:
First of all I was in another thread and saw an interesting post from @TheAmerikkkan Idol, so shout out to them and big Respect for helping creating a cool conversation!

This question is a great one because ECW lasted for a short period of time, but its influence spread to other wannabe extreme wrestling organizations even long after ECW’s demise. Everyone wanted to be hardcore and everyone wanted to be vulgar and show how tough they were. I personally feel ECW was more than just Blood and Guts (No Pun Intended) it was extreme, and things weren’t just done for them to be done.

When you saw Sandman load up his cane for a shot, New Jack signal to the fans before jumping off 4th and 5th floor height areas, Sabu springboard off the ropes onto a guy on a table, RVD jump from the turnbuckle to the crowd to hit his opponent, even Spike Dudley being thrown from the ring to the crowd only to land on the fans and crowd surf. All those things meant something and they weren’t spammed or done without reason.

The same thing can be said for Lucha Libre there was a time when the fast pace action was exciting. A time where it didn’t look to choreographed and goofy. Some of the best matches that helped bring Lucha Libre to an American audience were the classics between, Rey Misterio Jr. and his longtime rivals, Psicosis and Juventud Guerrera. These matches caught the eyes of WCW and helped expand Lucha Libre to an even bigger audience. The classic Lucha matches from even earlier then that demonstrated technique and flare that wowed the crowd and every move like ECW meant something!

I want to see what the TSC thinks! Have the influences of ECW and Classic Lucha Libre destroyed modern wrestling?
 

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Nah. While ECW is responsible for the smarks running the business, the fact remains that ECW saved wrestling from extinction. Folks forget that WWF/E was in a bad slump due to the roid trial and the old minded booking, WCW was...WCW, and wrestling as a whole was in the decline. ECW brought back the feeling despite it being "blood and guts" which is far from the truth where they actually had a variety of wrestling styles along with the fukkery for a even balance. While ECW aged like stale breast milk, you can't deny the impact it made on the business.

LU if anything enhanced the direction of where wrestling needs to go. Lets keep it a buck, wrestling is fukking fake and I do not care to go beyond that truth. LU took that stigma and went OD with the storylines and cinematic approach. You would think WWE or even AEW would take the ball that LU dropped and go for the field goal. Imagine a promotion that has the sleazy back end business storyline like LU with the excessive athletics of modern day wrestling. shyt would be official:whew:.

NJPW is NJPW. Its a promotion that dumbed down puro for the western market, when various Japanese promotions like NOAH actually stays true to form with what Japanese wrestling is about.

As far as what ruined modern day wrestling. Look in the mirror:francis:.

We did it :mjcry:
 

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No, the style was always gonna evolve and change and people were just gonna adapt/copy.

When TLC became the craziest thing in wrestling, a lot of indy dudes just wanted to be Jeff Hardy.

When UFC rose in popularity everyone started rocking kick pads and started adding strike combos in their moveset.

When ROH started appropriating Japanese Fighting Spirit (specifically Davey Richards) and have multiple spots with no selling that became the wave.

Now we’re in the PWG phase where it doesnt have to make sense just invoke big reaction.
 
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