Hawks fans, I like Smoove and he's good but Horford can be elite

[Johnny Kilroy]

Smoove is straight.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

He can be a 20 and 10 guy yea but Idk if he can lead this team to a championship. Prolly to the playoffs tho. Horford and him are goin to be a dangerous tandem of they stay healthy

Btw if Larry Drew doesn't have this team performing up to there potential by mid season he needs to go!!

 

[tremonthustler1]

It's not about the ppg it's about how he does it. It looks Blake Griffin and VC like. You know, the non impactful scoring. He doesn't make others better in the process and it's not like he's a finisher either.

My point being said that he isn't really a #1 option on offense type. I don't think any team can win with Love being that. Love is very good player, I love watching him play but I don't like him as a #1 . For someone with his passing skills, he sure can be a blackhole at times. He is just more of a role player to me than a superstar. Stat wise, he is a top 5 NBA player. But when I watch, I rather Bosh, Horford, Z-Bo, and LMA. Him and Griffin the same to me. Just different skill-sets and mentality.

They don't win games without his scoring. What the team needs is ANOTHER scorer to go along with him, but he's gotten much better in terms of all around scoring. The reason why they don't win is because he had shyt for teammates and their most impactful player was out.

 

[charmander]

HAWKS GOIN TO THE ECF THIS YEAR

WE STANNIN HORFORD AND SMOOVE TIL THE WHEELS FALL OFF

 

[mvp_status]

SLAM ONLINE | » Al Horford: Elite Big

His jumpers rate dropped the min Bibby was traded. Even though Bibby wasn't effective anymore, he could still run an offense. Teague and Hinrich can't. So Horford #'s dropped.

Going into ASB, Horford had the best jump-shooting numbers in the NBA. He still had the best 16-23 feet numbers in 82 games.

Al's 16-23 feet

Dirk's 16-23 feet

Fair enough.

Now who's your top 10, and then tell me who Hortford is gonna knock off that list to be in the "elite" conversation

 

[Reggie]

Horford is a beast and highly slept on by many fans. But to say he is the best or even top five power forwards is blasphemous. I think he can be a legit 20 and 10 type player if the offense was based around him but u can say that about a lot of other power forwards too.

 

[#1 pick]

Horford is a beast and highly slept on by many fans. But to say he is the best or even top five power forwards is blasphemous. I think he can be a legit 20 and 10 type player if the offense was based around him but u can say that about a lot of other power forwards too.

True, but how many of them even play decent defense much less great defense.

 

[bigmanharris]

Nah. Not until he develops a low post game & even then I would hesitate to say he's elite. There's probably only 5 or 6 truly elite players in the game right now & I don't see Horford having that type of ceiling. Smoove COULD, but he's a headcase half the time so he'll never truly make that next step, he'll just give glimpses

Horford is too slow and mechanical in his moves. His low post game consists of bullying. That ain't gonna work. I had hopes for him , but not anymore. He does need to be at PF tho

 

[bigmanharris]

I love Turner's game. I still cant put my finger on why it couldnt workout with Iguodala tho but oh well.

I think Turner can run the show and Bynum can anchor their half court offense. He will be better than Brand (on offense) no doubt. But im not sure what else they have on that roster around Bynum, Holiday and Turner. We'll see. Hope it works out for them

Because like I said, both need the ball in their hands to be effective. Same as Jrue and and Lou Will......too many players on Philly did the same thing. Jrue gotta learn to be effective without the ball because it's the Evan Turner show.

 

[bigmanharris]

Agreed, and I can tell you from watching him closely over the last 5 years that Lou Williams is far too inconsistent to be depended on for offense.

The Hawks did the right thing by starting over. They'll miss the playoffs this year, but they got the cap space to make moves next summer.

Make moves for what? Ain't gonna be no franchise players out there. We shoulda kept Joe.....but I like the Lou Will pickup so i'm no longer mad. We won't come close to being as good as last year tho. I feel a Josh Smith meltdown coming

 

[intruder]

Because like I said, both need the ball in their hands to be effective. Same as Jrue and and Lou Will......too many players on Philly did the same thing. Jrue gotta learn to be effective without the ball because it's the Evan Turner show.

Hmm I dont know. The few times I've seen Iggy play he looked like he was good without the ball in a slasher role kinda like Eddie Jones with the Heat but with more power to his game. Guess those were isolated cases.

Turner can run the show but Jru is the PG so naturally you want the ball in his hands a good portion of the time. Unless they are ready to go into a BjArmstrong/ScottiePippen or MarioChalmers/Lebron type of setup with the two

 

[bigmanharris]

Hmm I dont know. The few times I've seen Iggy play he looked like he was good without the ball in a slasher role kinda like Eddie Jones with the Heat but with more power to his game. Guess those were isolated cases.

Turner can run the show but Jru is the PG so naturally you want the ball in his hands a good portion of the time. Unless they are ready to go into a BjArmstrong/ScottiePippen or MarioChalmers/Lebron type of setup with the two

Even though you are the PG you should still be effective when you get rid of the ball and get it back without ball dominating. Derrick Rose stepped that part of his game up big time tho the haters might not realize it by box score whoring. Evan ain't a scraps type dude. He isn't gonna be parked at the 3 point line or anywhere waiting on the catch and shoot. Iggy can play multiple roles, but with that contract they wasn't gonna make him a role player over Evan. Look at how Evan's production turned up once he got in the starting lineup and got the ball. And yeah with the skills of Evan and even the pickup of Dorell Wright a BJ Armstrong type PG might be the look for them. It will be interesting to see how Philly gels this year.

 

[#1 pick]

Horford is too slow and mechanical in his moves. His low post game consists of bullying. That ain't gonna work. I had hopes for him , but not anymore. He does need to be at PF tho

It will at PF. At center

 

[intruder]

Even though you are the PG you should still be effective when you get rid of the ball and get it back without ball dominating. Derrick Rose stepped that part of his game up big time tho the haters might not realize it by box score whoring. Evan ain't a scraps type dude. He isn't gonna be parked at the 3 point line or anywhere waiting on the catch and shoot. Iggy can play multiple roles, but with that contract they wasn't gonna make him a role player over Evan. Look at how Evan's production turned up once he got in the starting lineup and got the ball. And yeah with the skills of Evan and even the pickup of Dorell Wright a BJ Armstrong type PG might be the look for them. It will be interesting to see how Philly gels this year.

Yeah Dorrell Wright is a good pickup. I like the kid but he used to get injured too often when he was in Miami. At least he showed up and played hard unlike Michael Beasley

 

[#1 pick]

Ric Bucher: Chris Paul Isn

Stockton-Malone CP3-Horford. Add Howard to the party and now you have a

CP3
Jenkins
Korver
Horf
Dwight