HBCU's pay the price for a football paycheck

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CLEMSON, S.C. — Clemson played South Carolina State in college football on Saturday. Both universities field Division I teams, and that is pretty much where the similarities end in terms of athletics.

The No. 5 Tigers have an $83.5 million athletic budget, which includes six strength and conditioning coaches, and chartered jets for some road games. South Carolina State, a historically black school, has an athletic budget of a little more than $9 million and just one strength coach. It travels to games on a bus.

As part of the powerful Atlantic Coast Conference, Clemson is a member of the Football Bowl Subdivision, the top level of college football. The Bulldogs play in the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference, which is made up of small historically black colleges and universities (known as H.B.C.U. teams). Under N.C.A.A. rules, big-time schools like Clemson can hand out 85 football scholarships, while the lower-tier Football Championship Subdivision schools like South Carolina State can offer only 63. You get the picture.

Is there anyone who thought that the Bulldogs had a chance at an upset, like that time in 2007 when Appalachian State beat Michigan? Or like that time (Saturday) when North Dakota State knocked off No. 13 Iowa? No. The last time Clemson and South Carolina State played, the Tigers won, 73-7.

Buddy Pough, the Bulldogs’ coach, acknowledged last week that his team’s task was hopeless.

“They’ve got the ability to really come out and knock us crazy if they really decide to be that way,” he told reporters. “We want them to just kind of come out and just kind of go through the motions and get out of there, which would probably be the best-case scenario for us.”

Clemson chose to knock the Bulldogs crazy. The score was 45-0 at halftime. While the South Carolina State marching band entertained the crowd at the half — the highlight of the game, in truth — the referees went to the locker rooms to ask the coaches if they were willing to mercifully shorten the game by three minutes a quarter. Pough and Dabo Swinney, the Clemson coach, agreed that was a good idea.

The final score was 59-0.

I do not need to explain why games like these, between a major football power and a much smaller school, are played: money. These matchups, usually scheduled early in the season, are called “guarantee games,” because the visiting team is guaranteed an appearance fee. In other words, they are paid handsomely to get knocked crazy.

In this case, South Carolina State was paid $300,000. It was the Bulldogs’ third straight guarantee game; they had also lost their first two games, by 38-0 to Central Florida and by 53-24 to Louisiana Tech. The three games together reaped about $1 million for South Carolina State — more than 10 percent of its athletic budget.


Here are some of the other scores and payouts involving H.B.C.U. teams in guarantee games this season: Howard University’s opening game was against Maryland ($350,000); it lost, 52-13. The next week it lost to Rutgers, 52-14 ($350,000). Southeastern Louisiana State was beaten by Oklahoma State, 61-7 ($385,000). Prairie View A&M was beaten by Texas A&M, 67-0 ($450,000). Morgan State lost to Marshall, 62-0. Hampton lost to Old Dominion, 54-21. North Carolina Central lost to Duke, 49-6. And on and on.

Yes, there are predominantly white F.C.S. schools that play guarantee games and lose by wide margins. And, yes, there are times when the visitor in a guarantee game upsets a football power, though such teams are usually quality midmajors like North Dakota State, which beat Iowa, 23-21, and walked away with a check for $500,000, thank you very much.

But I want to focus here on H.B.C.U. teams, which are usually the most physically overmatched and get paid the least amount of money — and yet they feel they have no choice but to use their players as sacrificial lambs in guarantee games to fund their struggling athletic departments. The one-sided scores — and the public humiliation and potential for serious injury that come with such mismatches — make one wonder whether it is really worth it.

There was a time, of course, when H.B.C.U. teams played big-time football. But the college football landscape has changed drastically in recent decades, leaving the historically black programs in financial pain. They play guarantee games to help make ends meet.

Not surprising, those with a vested interest in guarantee games defend them. Dennis E. Thomas, the commissioner of South Carolina State’s conference, the MEAC, told me that “we are all Division I football, and over the years, F.C.S. schools have served the F.B.S. very well.” But he acknowledged that the primary motive for such games was financial.

He added: “I just happen to believe that it is good for football because we do have some victories against F.B.S. opponents. It’s like March Madness. When a small school beats a big one, that is good for basketball. It adds to the pageantry and excitement.”

Gary Harrell, Howard’s football coach, said that he liked guarantee games, “just because of the excitement and the exposure.”

“We use it as a measuring tool,” he added. “We want to know what type of team we have.” Sometimes, he said, good players with H.B.C.U. teams will get noticed by scouts when they play a guarantee game

But Harrell also admitted that he tries not to think about the possibility of injuries or the game getting out of hand.

“Playing at a Big Ten or SEC school, you know you are taking a risk,” he said.

Last season, the Bison lost to Boston College, 76-0
 

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HBCU coaches cool with losing like this? :francis:



Yeah, some game breaking talent will show up on one of their campuses real soon with that attitude :mjlol:


I understand they give young black men a huge opportunity to get an education, but for real some of them should just throw the team in the bushes
 
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Small ass white division II and division I schools play these teams too for a quick pay day. They know they are only playing the big teams so the power house teams can get a easy win and a quick scrimmage for their players.

When north Texas goes and plays at Florida (UF) ain't like it ain't nothing but a pay day for them and a easy blow out win for University of Florida.
 

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Small ass white division II and division I schools play these teams too for a quick pay day. They know they are only playing the big teams so the power house teams can get a easy win and a quick scrimmage for their players.

When north Texas goes and plays at Florida (UF) ain't like it ain't nothing but a pay day for them and a easy blow out win for University of Florida.
Is it the same amount or less :jbhmm:
 

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I guess 5% of their total budget is worth it.

It's gotta suck goin' into a game knowin' you're gonna get blown out and probably shut out. Not much you can get out of that. I wouldn't even watch/show the tape if I were a coach.
 

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Gary Harrell is a terrible coach, going by attending the Hampton/Howard game on Saturday.
 

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Is it the same amount or less :jbhmm:

You know that is a good question. Not sure about the amount but to the major universities it is chump change. Since the team isn't gonna a beat them which puts at risk bowl money and the fans still gonna pack the stadium and buy drinks, food, parking and ect even though they playing cup cakes.

Hell my undergrad school southern miss use to do that playing at FSU and Alabama which they couldn't even beat and would get blown out every match up.

We all knew that shyt was just a pay day to the school and nothing more.
 

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Small ass white division II and division I schools play these teams too for a quick pay day. They know they are only playing the big teams so the power house teams can get a easy win and a quick scrimmage for their players.

When north Texas goes and plays at Florida (UF) ain't like it ain't nothing but a pay day for them and a easy blow out win for University of Florida.

Right, Kent State is playing Alabama this Saturday. For what? A paycheck.

North Dakota State about to get blackballed from big schools though.
 

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So should these HBCU's not schedule these types of games anymore and not get paid? :dwillhuh:

Its not that the HBCUs should not schedule these games. I think they should. Its important for the schools to stay afloat. SC State just made 11% of the school budget off that game. The school is good, the coaches get paid. The Title 9 sports keep running. The big problem is the players who have no business being on that field against Clemson type athletes. The football team is used as punching bags/ tackling dummies while EVERYONE else on both sides prosper:
-$300,000 doesnt even cover tickets at Clemson, so they make money.
-Just a highlight reel built up for Deshaun Watson and crew. Most of those hits/ plays will be on all those tapes you will see on draft coverage of what these Clemson players can do. The game is literal draft audition tape.
-SC State (the school), gets paid. Coaches, administrators are just chillin. No hits taken
-All the womens teams (basketball, tennis, etc.) can just go and play with no worries

Just shows the football players get screwed and need to get paid something. Most violent sport, smallest reward.
 

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What is the problem here?
I don't understand, the HBCU players aren't getting injured every game against these teams. Its just what it is.
Personally these HBCU shouldn't have athletics, should be focused on concentrating on academics and areas where blacks can get positioning for employment.
 

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Its not that the HBCUs should not schedule these games. I think they should. Its important for the schools to stay afloat. SC State just made 11% of the school budget off that game. The school is good, the coaches get paid. The Title 9 sports keep running. The big problem is the players who have no business being on that field against Clemson type athletes. The football team is used as punching bags/ tackling dummies while EVERYONE else on both sides prosper:
-$300,000 doesnt even cover tickets at Clemson, so they make money.
-Just a highlight reel built up for Deshaun Watson and crew. Most of those hits/ plays will be on all those tapes you will see on draft coverage of what these Clemson players can do. The game is literal draft audition tape.
-SC State (the school), gets paid. Coaches, administrators are just chillin. No hits taken
-All the womens teams (basketball, tennis, etc.) can just go and play with no worries

Just shows the football players get screwed and need to get paid something. Most violent sport, smallest reward.
I get that but look at North Dakota State though. I know they're a powerhouse but they're still not in power 5 schools and they're still beating D1 teams :ehh:
 
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