Here's why Lil B and ASAP Rocky are the best rappers of their generation (the details)

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They actually accomplish what that they set out to do artistically, transcend their influences of OGs who did similar shyt before them, and execute on a very high level.

Basically they're the best versions of whoever they wanted to be, and that's what makes them great rappers in their own right.

Hear me out.

Lil B is not trying to be Nas, or Redman or KRS-One. Judging him as such is disingenuous. He wants to be the new Too Short, E-40 with a mix of Kool Keith, Cormega and Soulja Boy. A joker, a clown. His whole perspective is to troll, insert some satire, reference his rough past life and express random philosophy. But ultimately make you laugh and feel him.

And he's already one of the funniest of all time. You can't mention all time funny rappers and not think of Lil B. That's a huge accomplishment. No one from the new generation is really doing anything that legitimately puts them in the all-time bracket of something.

ASAP Rocky... it's not really clear who Rocky wants to be yet. Aside from being the most fashionable, eclectic and visually pleasing rapper of all time. I'm not making this shyt up. He says these kind of things on the regular. It's kinda hollow, but whatever.

Has he accomplished it? Yes. Rocky is the most stylish rapper since Kanye. Live.Love.ASAP is the most stylish shyt I've heard from anyone in a decade. I don't think anyone can argue against Live.Love.ASAP not being incredibly eclectic in its influences, which it pulls from multiple obscure regions and coasts. Add that to the street fashion that Rocky brought in... It was crazy. Rocky has already joined the list of fashionable rappers of all time like Camron, Snoop, Slick Rick, and Pharell.

Who the fukk are Drake, Kendrick and J Cole trying to be?
And are they in the all-time conversation for whatever it is they're trying to be? Kendrick is trying to be an intellectual rapper in the tradition of intellectual rappers before him. That's what the media sells to me. When I hear these cats, particularly with Kendrick, I hear an immensely-watered down version of popular, acclaimed stuff before him. He wants to be a deep observer like Nas? He's nowhere close. And saying that Kendrick is close to Nas in that department is offensive to anyone who's actually paid attention to this hip hop shyt. He wants to be Andre 3000 and blur genres? He doesn't have the voice for it nor the stellar production (Kendrick doesn't have anything on the level of Organized Noize). Is Kendrick even as deep as Lupe? Blu? Ka?

So what is Kendrick fantastic at?

I can go down the list with Drake and Cole but this is already a long post. To me, these guys are fantastic at nothing but having the right image at the right time. Yet the amount of hyperbole surrounding these guys is unlike anything I've ever seen in hip hop, particularly Kendrick.

And this is what makes me dislike these guys even more than I should. It's not because I don't wanna hear deeper, more artistic material. Of course I do. But I feel like I'm being sold the generic boy-band version and being told that it's filet mignon. And continually beating it over my head: "THIS IS FILET MIGNON. GREATEST ALBUMS OF THE 21st CENTURY"

And I'm thinking: "I know what filet mignon tastes like. This aint it."

Feel free to disagree. Call me retarded. A hater. A loser. Whatever. I'm genuinely interested in useful discussion. Kendrick fans are supposed to be super intelligent, so I'm hoping to hear something intelligent from them. Maybe you'll say something I haven't considered that'll make appreciate the grand trio even more.
 
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I've read every word of your post and I completely agree with what you're sayin, OP.

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Truly never got into Lil B but his whole "gimmick" makes me lol. I understand why he does it.

Asap Rocky on the flipside is one of my favorite artists

People dikkride Cole and Lamar for the sake of dikkriding. I suppose from an objective standpoint theyre good artists, but they dont resonate with me and their music isnt appealing
 

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man i fuvk with asap, cole, drake, kendrick music because they make good music
all this other mumbo jumbo you talking about op i dont put any stock into

and lil b can come thru with a dope song when he feels like it sometimes
wish dude was spitting always like he did that xxl freestyle, sonic boom, or nba live
 

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There it is. Had to be a reason you were hating on K-Dot's new album without even listening to it. You are a stan. You have just been exhibiting your stan traits. Stans do weird shyt. How can you shyt on Kendrick but then praise ASAP Rocky? :heh: That shyt don't make any sense. And that shyt you said about Rocky...

Aside from being the most fashionable, eclectic and visually pleasing rapper of all time.

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Feel free to disagree. Call me retarded. A hater. A loser. Whatever. I'm genuinely interested in useful discussion. Kendrick fans are supposed to be super intelligent, so I'm hoping to hear something intelligent from them. Maybe you'll say something I haven't considered that'll make appreciate the grand trio even more.

Your whole post was full of reasons to invalidate Drake, Cole and Kendrick ....

What is there to discuss ? You've already made your mind up that these 3 don't meet whatever lofty standards you've set so......

You are just ranting ......


Nothing new here :pharrell:
 

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I never listened to Kool Keith but I am an unashamed Lil B stan.... when I first heard Kool Keith I gained a much bigger understanding of Lil B

Rap right now is paralyzed with the fear of conformity. nikkas are scared to death of not fitting in. Dudes like Kool Keith and Lil B work to show that it's OK and even better to do what you want, regardless of what others think.

I never really rocked with ASAP Rocky though. His flow is weak like Angela Yee's thoughts. When he raps it sounds like he doesnt want to be there. Like he is just messing around. I dont like that.
 

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Lil B is garbage juice as a rapper... He has a cute lil cult following but his career is one long running joke... He made funny lil catchy songs and videos but then when it's time to make an to make a album he abandons all that shyt and tries to make a. Real" rap album called "I'm gay" :heh:

I like some of ASAP shyt... But as far as knowing what he wants to do he seems very confused. He came out with whole Southern H town screwed up style which made him unique but it was just weird and felt like a facade. Especially when you mix in all that fashion Killa bullshyt and calling himself pretty all the time. He just seems to be all style and little substance. I mean he raps about getting fukked up and name dropping a bunch of fashion brands.. .

The point being is that neither one of them cats rap about any real shyt. Which is cool for some people and I no issue with it. I like my dose of ignorant rap shyt Future, 2 Chainz... But you giving props to these cats while shytting on J. Cole and Kendrick?? :dwillhuh:
 
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