Hillary Clinton says Republicans are grooming Tulsi Gabbard for a 3rd party run (edit: not Russians)

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it's hilarious that the people who ride the hardest for tulsi are on the hard-right.

she's basically irrelevant to democrats but there's always a contingent of trump stans and breitbart reading motherfukkers who stay bigging her up and :cape: and shyt.

shyt is bizarre.

It's not bizarre, they're just trying to build up ill will towards the Dems so people who would normally vote Dem stay home next election. To be honest it's a pretty good tactic and Hillary's dumb ass giving her attention just makes it worse.

At this point I'm just gonna sit back and hope maybe after four more years of Trump Dems get their shyt together. :francis::yeshrug:
 

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It's not bizarre, they're just trying to build up ill will towards the Dems so people who would normally vote Dem stay home next election. To be honest it's a pretty good tactic and Hillary's dumb ass giving her attention just makes it worse.

At this point I'm just gonna sit back and hope maybe after four more years of Trump Dems get their shyt together. :francis::yeshrug:
Goodness gracious. Can you be more one note? No one is trying to suppress the vote. People actually have problems with the Democratic party. There is no conspiracy.
 

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Seems to lineup with what Tulsi has been saying...FOR YEARS.... about these so called "moderates", were "assisted". :unimpressed:.

To be fair, what caller didn't clarify, but explained in the article I posted, Hillary sat on the board back in the 90s, but interesting nonetheless.
 
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Alot of that he stated is speculation but she's obviously trying to just get back in the spotlight. She may be trying to poison the primary but I don't want to speculate on that. I guess there are a few posters here who thinks she's some patriot or just hate Tulsi. But that's not her MO.
 

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Alot of that he stated is speculation but she's obviously trying to just get back in the spotlight. She may be trying to poison the primary but I don't want to speculate on that. I guess there are a few posters here who thinks she's some patriot or just hate Tulsi. But that's not her MO.
I can literally post the pic of me giving her the finger and writing in "The Senator from Vermont, Mr. Bernie Sanders" in 2016 when I voted in November. I live in NYC, my vote was largely meaningless so I took the opportunity to take a stand regarding what I felt was some shady shyt on behalf of the DNC and Hillary Clinton.

I am NOT a Hilldog stan.

She lost. It's over. The Russians played a part, but she still lost.

That said, this Tulsi infatuation that some people have is fascinating, and like I said, in April-June of next year, a lot of posters are gonna be julezing when it doesn't matter who the Dem candidate is, and Tulsi is still running interference for those who have a penchant for fine Vodka and hold positions that are surprisingly not in line with anything Warren, Bernie, OR Biden have.

That's gonna be the fun part...when the posters who support any of the big three RIGHT NOW (Biden, Bernie, Liz) are still trying to give Tulsi Gabbard a pass in about 9 months.

Bookmark this thread...
 

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I can literally post the pic of me giving her the finger and writing in "The Senator from Vermont, Mr. Bernie Sanders" in 2016 when I voted in November. I live in NYC, my vote was largely meaningless so I took the opportunity to take a stand regarding what I felt was some shady shyt on behalf of the DNC and Hillary Clinton.

I am NOT a Hilldog stan.

She lost. It's over. The Russians played a part, but she still lost.

That said, this Tulsi infatuation that some people have is fascinating, and like I said, in April-June of next year, a lot of posters are gonna be julezing when it doesn't matter who the Dem candidate is, and Tulsi is still running interference for those who have a penchant for fine Vodka and hold positions that are surprisingly not in line with anything Warren, Bernie, OR Biden have.

That's gonna be the fun part...when the posters who support any of the big three RIGHT NOW (Biden, Bernie, Liz) are still trying to give Tulsi Gabbard a pass in about 9 months.

Bookmark this thread...
It's really not about Tulsi to me here. I was pretty much done with her after she started flip flopping on Medicare for All and even before that with her Modi stances. To me though a former government official accusing a sitting congresswomen and active military personal of being an asset with zero proof is fukking trash and the same as people slingling shots at the Clintons for Bengazi or whatever. With Trump we atleast have evidence to speculate based on who he surrounded himself with and how he was laundering money for Russians for decades. This is baseless claim based on either a disagreement in her policies or out of spite for her moves during 2016. I wish Hillary would use her energy as a former SOS for something positive but every time she pops up it's just negative garbage that serves no purpose in winning the prez or Senate back. And now the talking point from Hillary's team is that she may not be an asset but a useful idiot. They just need to go away.
 
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I can literally post the pic of me giving her the finger and writing in "The Senator from Vermont, Mr. Bernie Sanders" in 2016 when I voted in November. I live in NYC, my vote was largely meaningless so I took the opportunity to take a stand regarding what I felt was some shady shyt on behalf of the DNC and Hillary Clinton.

I am NOT a Hilldog stan.

She lost. It's over. The Russians played a part, but she still lost.

That said, this Tulsi infatuation that some people have is fascinating, and like I said, in April-June of next year, a lot of posters are gonna be julezing when it doesn't matter who the Dem candidate is, and Tulsi is still running interference for those who have a penchant for fine Vodka and hold positions that are surprisingly not in line with anything Warren, Bernie, OR Biden have.

That's gonna be the fun part...when the posters who support any of the big three RIGHT NOW (Biden, Bernie, Liz) are still trying to give Tulsi Gabbard a pass in about 9 months.

Bookmark this thread...
I mean don't you have to prove her foreign policy stances have something to do with Russia before making that claim? Just because you agree on a subject doesn't mean much.
 

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I think it was a calculated warning. This looks like the Trump m.o. all over again, honestly.

-Early Russian media efforts to prop up the candidate

-Political positions line up with Russian geopolitical interests

-Never criticizes Putin and downplays/denies Russian interference in US elections

-Campaign has shady ties to Kremlin lobbyist goons
Tulsi Gabbard Hires Russian Agent to Keep Hawaii Media in Check > Hawaii Free Press



Only difference is Trump was able to win the presidency and Tulsi can’t get past 2% in the Democratic primary.

It's weird how people are ignoring this.
 

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Exactly How Progressive is Tulsi Gabbard?
Donation data shows that Gabbard is more closely aligned with Secretary Clinton than Senator Sanders.
July 13, 2016

Tulsi Gabbard has been hailed as a progressive darling in the Democratic Party: she’s young, comes from a diverse background and stepped down from her position as the chairperson of the DNC to endorse Bernie Sanders. Her deep ties to Sanders is one of the reasons her name has been floated as a potential VP pick for Secretary Clinton. Many believe that if Clinton selects a progressive firebrand like Gabbard as her VP, she could bring in other Sanders supporters and bring the left-wing energy of the Democratic Party into their general election efforts to defeat Donald Trump.

However, questions have come up challenging the authenticity of Gabbard’s progressive credentials and some have critically asserted that her decision to support Sanders could be chalked up to political expediency rather than principle. So, how progressive is Congresswoman Gabbard exactly?

According to Crowdpac data, Gabbard is ideologically much closer to Secretary Clinton than to Senator Sanders.

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Gabbard’s score is partially derived from who has donated to her over the duration of her political career. While Sanders pledged to raise no funds from PACs, Gabbard has not abided by the same standard. Supporters of Sanders and the “political revolution” might take some pause when they find out how much money Gabbard has taken from certain PACS.


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Wal-Mart “Responsible Government” PAC
The progressive wing of the Democratic Party has long been critical of the business practices of Wal-Mart, citing everything from their union-busting policies to failing to pay their workers a livable wage. In spite of this, Gabbard has taken $17,000 from Wal-Mart’s “Responsible Government” PAC, an organization that also gives to extremely conservative elected officials.

Gabbard’s acceptance of funds from Wal-Mart mirrors Secretary Clinton rather than Senator Sanders. Clinton’s Super PAC, Ready for Hillary, received $25,000 from Wal-Mart heiress Alice Walton in 2015.


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Funds Raised from Defense Contractor PACs
Sanders is consistently liberal on the issues of defense and foreign policy, and has said that he judges America on how it “can resolve international conflicts in a peaceful manner.”

Gabbard has stood by this platform, but has also taken money from the 4 largest defense contractors in the U.S. She’s raised a combined $54,000 from General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin and the Employees of Northrop Grumman PAC and Boeing. This represents a solid 16% of the total amount of funding she received from PACs that contributed to her campaigns.



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Financial Services PAC
The cornerstone issue of Sanders’s presidential bid was breaking up the big banks and regulating Wall Street. His stump speeches were peppered with denunciations of the financial sector’s damage to the American economy and everyday workers. However, his earliest supporter, Gabbard, has taken $21,500 from PACs in the financial services industry, including Ernst & Young, the Mortgage Bankers Association Political Action Committee, PricewaterhouseCoopers and Deloitte.



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The data shows Gabbard to be more aligned with Clinton than Sanders, despite Gabbard’s strong backing of Sanders.


What I don't understand is how can you rail against Hillary but support Tulsi when she's everything you supposedly hated about her and them some (she's to the right of Hillary)? And before you talk about people evolving ideologically overtime, remember, that person was attacked for "evolving." In Tulsi's case, however, it's more like a sudden flipping of a switch than any tracked evolution. It started around the time Bernie's popularity started to grow.

I made a post earlier in this thread showing her conservative leanings before that point:

I still don't understand what attracts people to Tulsi. I don't buy the claim that it's because she's anti-war, because she isn't. She was in a D+19 district, but her record reflected that of a staunch conservative.


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ProgressivePunch: House Members by score / All issues

Her DW-NOMINATE score also showed this.


How as a so-called progress can you reconcile supporting a regular on Tucker Carlson's show; someone who pushed legislation for Sheldon Adelson; someone who claims to be a dove, but supports drone bombing and wars on "terror?" She's very Clinton-esque but that is ignored.

She's also part of some weirdo homophobic cult.


Exclusive: Will Tulsi Gabbard Answer Questions About Her LGBTQ Hate Guru?
 

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What I don't understand is how can you rail against Hillary but support Tulsi when she's everything you supposedly hated about her and them some (she's to the right of Hillary)? And before you talk about people evolving ideologically overtime, remember, that person was attacked for "evolving." In Tulsi's case, however, it's more like a sudden flipping of a switch than any tracked evolution. It started around the time Bernie's popularity started to grow.

I made a post earlier in this thread showing her conservative leanings before that point:




How as a so-called progress can you reconcile supporting a regular on Tucker Carlson's show; someone who pushed legislation for Sheldon Adelson; someone who claims to be a dove, but supports drone bombing and wars on "terror?" She's very Clinton-esque but that is ignored.

She's also part of some weirdo homophobic cult.


Exclusive: Will Tulsi Gabbard Answer Questions About Her LGBTQ Hate Guru?
The difference is she doesn't have terrible actions on her record like Hillary. Maybe you can chalk that up to a lack of ability to do so as a Congress member but the point stands.
Also she apologized for her past homophobic stances and legislatively she has supported LGBTQ rights consistently.
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a 2020 candidate, apologizes for her past homophobic remarks
 

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And just like that, the democratic party is split yet again, fighting over someone that's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Just like I said days ago, but yall still think it was a good idea for Hillary to throw these claims out.

:unimpressed:
 
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