Hillary Clinton says Republicans are grooming Tulsi Gabbard for a 3rd party run (edit: not Russians)

[AnonymityX1000]

You're not fooling anybody with your "I didn't vote for Trump" bullshyt. I remember your ass from 2016 and that Trumpset nonsense.

Where have I taken Hillary's words as gospel? I've been posting about how much of an opportunist piece of conservative shyt Tulsi is since I started posting on here... and I've actually backed it her with her record too, which is conveniently being ignored.

You're just as big a hypocritical piece of dishonest shyt as @jayshiggs.

This guy is furious!

 

[the next guy]

So this is the NYT's fault now. Crappy Newspaper and crappy person(s) collide. We all lose.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

You didn't provide anything but a scoreboard that ranks Pelosi high as a Progressive. So feel free to get specific about a policy you don't like and not some other source you have nothing to do with like . . . whenever.
And your complaint about her religion applies to every religious person. I'm not persecuting Hillary or Tulsi for sins of their respective religions. That's dumb.

The contention was whether or not Tulsi is a progressive - she's not. She is to the *right* of Clinton based on her congressional voting behavior (which is what a DW-NOMINATE* score measures). The point here is how do you reconcile supporting someone who's not really what they're claiming to be while you scorn someone who's the same or ideologically better? What is the excuse for someone having an extremely conservative voting record when they represent a blue stronghold?



*NOMINATE (scaling method) - Wikipedia

NOMINATE (an acronym for Nominal Three-Step Estimation) is a multidimensional scaling application developed by political scientists Keith T. Poole and Howard Rosenthal in the early 1980s to analyze preferential and choice data, such as legislative roll-call voting behavior.[1][2] As computing capabilities grew, Poole and Rosenthal developed multiple iterations of their NOMINATE procedure: the original D-NOMINATE method, W-NOMINATE, and most recently DW-NOMINATE (for dynamic, weighted NOMINATE). In 2009, Poole and Rosenthal were named the first recipients of the Society for Political Methodology's Best Statistical Software Award for their development of NOMINATE, a recognition conferred to "individual(s) for developing statistical software that makes a significant research contribution".[3] In 2016, Keith T. Poole was awarded the Society for Political Methodology's Career Achievement Award. The citation for this award reads, in part, "One can say perfectly correctly, and without any hyperbole: the modern study of the U.S. Congress would be simply unthinkable without NOMINATE legislative roll call voting scores. NOMINATE has produced data that entire bodies of our discipline—and many in the press—have relied on to understand the U.S. Congress."

This guy is furious!

And you don't have the principles you pretend you do in your sanctimonious posts.

 

[Pressure]

Is @ill pretending he isn't a Trump supporter?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

The contention was whether or not Tulsi is a progressive - she's not. She is to the *right* of Clinton based on her congressional voting behavior (which is what a DW-NOMINATE* score measures). The point here is how do you reconcile supporting someone who's not really what they're claiming to be while you scorn someone who's the same or ideologically better? What is the excuse for someone having an extremely conservative voting record when they represent a blue stronghold?



*NOMINATE (scaling method) - Wikipedia

NOMINATE (an acronym for Nominal Three-Step Estimation) is a multidimensional scaling application developed by political scientists Keith T. Poole and Howard Rosenthal in the early 1980s to analyze preferential and choice data, such as legislative roll-call voting behavior.[1][2] As computing capabilities grew, Poole and Rosenthal developed multiple iterations of their NOMINATE procedure: the original D-NOMINATE method, W-NOMINATE, and most recently DW-NOMINATE (for dynamic, weighted NOMINATE). In 2009, Poole and Rosenthal were named the first recipients of the Society for Political Methodology's Best Statistical Software Award for their development of NOMINATE, a recognition conferred to "individual(s) for developing statistical software that makes a significant research contribution".[3] In 2016, Keith T. Poole was awarded the Society for Political Methodology's Career Achievement Award. The citation for this award reads, in part, "One can say perfectly correctly, and without any hyperbole: the modern study of the U.S. Congress would be simply unthinkable without NOMINATE legislative roll call voting scores. NOMINATE has produced data that entire bodies of our discipline—and many in the press—have relied on to understand the U.S. Congress."



And you don't have the principles you pretend you do in your sanctimonious posts.

I asked YOU what YOU think is Tulsi's worst policy vote. I don't give a shyt about some random score from people I never heard of. You are not answering what was asked.
And I don't think I'm better than anybody else. If my posts make you feel that way get introspective on that.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I asked YOU what YOU think is Tulsi's worst policy vote. I don't give a shyt about some random score from people I never heard of. You are not answering what was asked.
And I don't think I'm better than anybody else. If my posts make you feel that way get introspective on that.

To me and what I believe in? Her vote against emergency contraceptives for rape victims. And as a state representative she was central in the passing of legislation that blocked same-sex couples from civil unions/marriage.

Nominate isn't some random score either. And it again shows your craven nature to just hand wave it away because of its inconvenience. Tulsi is a conservative and your support of her as a so-called progressive is weird to me.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

To me and what I believe in? Her vote against emergency contraceptives for rape victims. And as a state representative she was central in the passing of legislation that blocked same-sex couples from civil unions/marriage.

Nominate isn't some random score either. And it again shows your craven nature to just hand wave it away because of its inconvenience. Tulsi is a conservative and your support of her as a so-called progressive is weird to me.

Thanks, was that so hard?
I waved it away because it is not what I asked you and if you look back I said she lost her Progressive credentials earlier in this thread and criticized her on the points I disagree with her on. Did you miss that post or did you 'wave it away because of its inconvenience'? I like her anti-interventionist war stance and talk about saving $ on war to spend it @ home and her general conviction against the status quo and can acknowledge she is getting treated very unfairly by MSM for that conviction. I have no plans to vote for her.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Thanks, was that so hard?
I waved it away because it is not what I asked you and if you look back I said she lost her Progressive credentials earlier in this thread and criticized her on the points I disagree with her on. Did you miss that post or did you 'wave it away because of its inconvenience'? I like her anti-interventionist war stance and talk about saving $ on war to spend it @ home and her general conviction against the status quo and can acknowledge she is getting treated very unfairly by MSM for that conviction. I have no plans to vote for her.

Look, he's trying to be condescending.

Her so-called anti-interventionist stance is bullshyt. She's also not against the status quo - remember, she voted overwhelmingly with the GOP status quo until it was time to grift gullible "progressives." How is she being treated unfairly by the "MSM?"






Request for Joint Meeting of Congress

She's a neocon hiding behind an anti-intervention smokescreen.



Meet the top politicians, mega-donors who mingled at secretive conference – Center for Public Integrity

Their names, along with about 300 others, appear within disclosure documents filed today by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii — who, along with Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, was one of the handful of Democrats who participated in the annual conference sponsored by the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

Why don't you support Cory Booker - he's as much a hollow pretender as Tulsa. Oh, right...

 

[Copy Ninja]

Hillary thought everybody was gonna fall in line

There's now a report that Hillary would run again if she had a chance to win. I think this Tulsi story is a way to get a feel for how voters would react when her name is brought up. It doesn't really matter what other candidates say about her.

And from the responses on here and on social media there are voters out there who still drink her kool aid.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Look, he's trying to be condescending.

Her so-called anti-interventionist stance is bullshyt. She's also not against the status quo - remember, she voted overwhelmingly with the GOP status quo until it was time to grift gullible "progressives." How is she being treated unfairly by the "MSM?"






Request for Joint Meeting of Congress

She's a neocon hiding behind an anti-intervention smokescreen.



Meet the top politicians, mega-donors who mingled at secretive conference – Center for Public Integrity

Their names, along with about 300 others, appear within disclosure documents filed today by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii — who, along with Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, was one of the handful of Democrats who participated in the annual conference sponsored by the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

Why don't you support Cory Booker - he's as much a hollow pretender as Tulsa. Oh, right...

Damn, pull your skirt down B. If you don't like how I'm talking to you maybe you should stop. lol
Going to meetings and talking to people is a part of her job isn't she on foreign policy house committees? I'm not a conspiracy theorist looking at pictures and cooking up ideas. You can find shyt like that easily:

Oh shyt, John Kerry is talking and meeting with Sisi and kinda looks like he is enjoying the conversation?! He must be up to something!
Why don't you go @ John Kerry? Oh right . . .

 

[88m3]

whataboutism isn't really a valid form of debate

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Damn, pull your skirt down B. If you don't like how I'm talking to you maybe you should stop. lol
Going to meetings and talking to people is a part of her job isn't she on foreign policy house committees? I'm not a conspiracy theorist looking at pictures and cooking up ideas. You can find shyt like that easily:

Oh shyt, John Kerry is talking and meeting with Sisi and kinda looks like he is enjoying the conversation?! He must be up to something!
Why don't you go @ John Kerry? Oh right . . .

You're scrambling.

John Kerry isn't claiming to be some anti-interventionist, anti-war dove. Tulsi sounds like your run-of-the-mill neoconservative. It's no wonder she gets invited to their little conferences. It's no wonder she's a regular on Tucker Carlson. It's no wonder she's supported by David Duke. It's no wonder she's propped up by Breitbart.

 

[ceezy]

whataboutism isn't really a valid form of debate

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That's because you don't like being called out on your hypocrisy. Is Pelosi an Assad lover too? Ya'll Clinton stans are a trip with that McCarthyism. It's hilarious on a supposedly hip hop forum seeing folks stanning a Crazy Old White Lady smearing a Woman of Color who is a Army veteran

 

[ceezy]

You're scrambling.

John Kerry isn't claiming to be some anti-interventionist, anti-war dove. Tulsi sounds like your run-of-the-mill neoconservative. It's no wonder she gets invited to their little conferences. It's no wonder she's a regular on Tucker Carlson. It's no wonder she's supported by David Duke. It's no wonder she's propped up by Breitbart.

How is her platform Neoconservative? Ya'll Tulsi haters be reaching

 

[88m3]

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That's because you don't like being called out on your hypocrisy. Is Pelosi an Assad lover too? Ya'll Clinton stans are a trip with that McCarthyism. It's hilarious on a supposedly hip hop forum seeing folks stanning a Crazy Old White Lady smearing a Woman of Color who is a Army veteran

you just got caught linking to alt right articles a few days ago


we've seen this routine enough times