Hip Hop is losing to K-Pop. Real talk

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So recently BTS (kpop boyband which has millions of kpop twitter stans that comment #billboardmusicawardsbts under every chartdata post) just released a new song YESTERDAY



How the fukk can hip hop compete with 60 MILLION + VIEWS IN A fukkING DAY. :damn:

I just looked on their social blade and they average 1 million likes a tweet. ONE MILLION. Kanye averages 40k :damn:

this could be the next big genre :ohhh:
 
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Asian market is huge. China alone has 1 billion+ people.
1/3 of the world population lives or resides in the continent of Asia alone.
And in many asian countries internet/wifi is free of charge.

Koreans, Filipinos, Chinese, Japanese etc...many many fans.

Not difficult to understand how this K-pop band is huge right now.

And btw, K-pop has heavy Black American musical influences. They heavily took a lot of elements from RnB/hiphop/RNB boy band like Omarion and B2K.
 
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So recently BTS (kpop boyband which has millions of kpop twitter stans that comment #billboardmusicawardsbts under every chartdata post) just released a new song YESTERDAY



How the fukk can hip hop compete with 60 MILLION + VIEWS IN A fukkING DAY. :damn:

I just looked on their social blade and they average 1 million likes a tweet. ONE MILLION. Kanye averages 40k :damn:

this could be the next big genre :ohhh:

Kpop, imo is much like Soccer in US: Good, and exciting in theory, but horrible in practice!!
As much as Hip hop is accessible to non-Blacks, white washed and slutted out for mass appeal, I question if pale 5'2, scrawny asians who dont even speak the language, or do an even worst imitation of Black cultute than alot of these vultures do, can truly pop off:jbhmm:

Then again, its 2018, and in this fukked up, backwards ass system, anything is possible...who am I kiddin?:damn:
 

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stop it....how can the real version lose to it's imitation? K-pop is carbon copy of american/afram music w/o any real asian input. Sharking/appropriating to success only works for white people in the american/european market



The Root of K-Pop: The Influences of Today's Biggest Acts






South Korean boy band BTS are breaking through the glass ceiling of Asian pop in the United States.

Before them, K-pop was depicted in the US as a just a phenomenon that sometimes went viral on the internet and that only enjoyed popularity outside the country. But this is poised to change.

Oh In-gyu, a professor at the Research Institute of Korean Studies at Korea University and director of general affairs at the World Association for Hallyu Studies, says there is definitely a parallel between the British Invasion and the “BTS phenomenon”.

“Rock is a genre that initially began in the United States. British groups replicated it and the Beatles and other British groups dominated the American market in the 1960s. What we’re seeing now is that the Korean boy band BTS are popular among US teens because of their hip-hop music. Hip-hop was the brainchild of black American culture, but Korean singer Rap Monster, the frontman of BTS, does hip-hop as well as American musicians.”

BTS pave way for K-pop golden age in US, doing what Psy couldn’t





............the streaming numbers that you see are most likely coming from the asian market the same way/reason so many latin trap/modern reggaeton acts have a shyt load of streams on youtube but you never seem them in the USA top 40 billboard charts. Their streams are coming from the latin market.
 
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And btw, K-pop has heavy Black American musical influences. They heavily took a lot of elements from RnB/hiphop/RNB boy band like Omarion and B2K.

motown, factory like, machine + modern urban music = blueprint for kpop


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The stylistic elements of k-pop also go way back. Far closer to the current spirit of idol pop than doo-wop, The Beatles, Elvis or any of the imitators they spawned was the American Motown record label. Formed in 1959, Motown were the first record label with overt “factory” aspirations and a mission statement to transform their working-class black performers into “royalty” – people that you would (hopefully) find charming and relateable and fetishise and drool over and plaster your bedroom walls with posters of, regardless of class or racial barriers. Motown specifically groomed, charm-schooled and choreographed their younger artists for maximum public appeal and success just like k-pop agencies do now and to this end they were the spiritual precursor to the k-pop labels of today. Motown had teams of in-house songwriters cranking out the hits and even had their own SM Town-style packaged concerts. Their strategies worked, with their first big payoff coming with mega-hit girl group The Supremes.

Many of the key elements that we love about today’s Korean idol groups were present in a more basic form in The Supremes. In “Stop In The Name Of Love” we can see synchronised choreography, sexy (for the time) fashions and styling, and even the first ever “girl idol hand-dance”.




This iconic hand gesture as well as the general look and feel of The Supremes was given the high-glitz modern k-pop makeover in Wonder Girls’ “Nobody



The differences between K-pop and western pop for those too lazy to write their own school essays


K-pop and 1960’s Americana: More alike than you think


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K-pop and 1960’s Americana: More alike than you think

29/08/2013
The way that western pop culture has influenced the world is indisputable, and nowhere more apparent than in popular music. K-pop’s roots are usually traced back to the iconic Seo Taiji & The Boys, who introduced a world of hip-hop, pop, and dance music not previously felt as strongly in South Korea. That was the early 90’s, and it’s obvious K-pop has been taking hints from western pop, R&B, and hip-hop music ever since.

If you introduce an unsuspecting citizen to the wonders of K-pop, chances are they will come to the same conclusion. Most popularly, the flashy boy and girl groups, synchronized choreography, and upbeat tunes will draw comparisons to the wave of late 90’s and early 2000’s groups and artists prevalent in the US. I’ve often heard this sometimes “dated” view of K-pop held up as a reason that some love it, and others could do without it.

However, if you know a thing or two about the history of pop music, you know that boybands and girl groups didn’t start with N*Sync and BSB, or even NKOTB and TLC. If you really want to take it back to the source of everything you see today in music, you have get familiar with names like The Osmonds, The Jackson 5, The Chordettes, and The Supremes.

I would go far as to say that K-pop, where it is at in 2013, has more in common with the early 1960’s of western pop music than it does with the 1990’s, or 2010’s.

K-pop and 1960’s Americana: More alike than you think - Beyond Hallyu


How K-pop became a global phenomenon

K-pop began in 1992 with one electric hip-hop performance
K-pop as we know it wouldn’t exist without democracy and television — specifically, South Korea’s reformation of its democratic government in 1987, with its accompanying modernization and lightening of censorship, and the effect this change had on television.

Prior to the establishment of the nation’s Sixth Republic, there were only two broadcast networks in the country, and they largely controlled what music South Koreans listened to; singers and musicians weren’t much more than tools of the networks. Networks introduced the public to musical stars primarily through weekend music talent shows. Radio existed but, like the TV networks, was under tight state control. Independent music production didn’t really exist, and rock music was controversial and subject to banning; musicians and songs were primarily introduced to the public through the medium of the televised talent show, and radio served as little more than a subsidiary platform for entertainers who succeeded on those weekend TV competitions.

Before the liberalization of South Korean media in the late ‘80s, the music produced by broadcast networks was exclusively either slow ballads or “trot,” a Lawrence Welk-ish fusion of traditional music with old pop standards. After 1987, though, the country’s radio broadcasting expanded rapidly, and South Koreans became familiar with more varieties of music from outside the country, including contemporary American music.

But TV was still the country’s dominant, centralized form of media: As of 1992, national TV networks had penetrated above 99 percent of South Korean homes, and viewership was highest on the weekends, when the talent shows took place. These televised talent shows were crucial in introducing music groups to South Korean audiences; they still have an enormous cultural impact and remain the single biggest factor in a South Korean band’s success.

As Moonrok editor Hannah Waitt points out in her excellent series on the history of K-pop, K-pop is unusual as a genre because it has a definitive start date, thanks to a band called Seo Taiji and Boys. Seo Taiji had previously been a member of the South Korean heavy metal band Sinawe, which was itself a brief but hugely influential part of the development of Korean rock music in the late ‘80s. After the band broke up, he turned to hip-hop and recruited two stellar South Korean dancers, Yang Hyun-suk and Lee Juno, to join him as backups in a group dubbed Seo Taiji and Boys. On April 11, 1992, they performed their single “Nan Arayo (I Know)” on a talent show:

Not only did the Boys not win the talent show, but the judges gave the band the lowest score of the evening. But immediately after the song debuted, “I Know” went on to top South Korea’s singles charts for a record-smashing 17 weeks, which would stand for more than 15 years as the longest No. 1 streak in the country’s history.

“I Know” represented the first time modern American-style pop music had been fused with South Korean culture. Seo Taiji and Boys were innovators who challenged norms around musical styles, song topics, fashion, and censorship. They sang about teen angst and the social pressure to succeed within a grueling education system, and insisted on creating their own music and writing their own songs outside of the manufactured network environment.

Don’t ask what makes a K-pop song. Ask what makes a K-pop performer.
There are three things that make K-pop such a visible and unique contributor to the realm of pop music: exceptionally high-quality performance (especially dancing), an extremely polished aesthetic, and an “in-house” method of studio production that churns out musical hits the way assembly lines churn out cars.

Hip-hop tends to be a dominant part of the K-pop sound, particularly among male groups, a trend that has opened up the genre to criticism for appropriation. South Korea grapples with a high degree of cultural racism, and recent popular groups have come under fire for donning blackface, appropriating Native American iconography, and much more. Still, K-pop has increasingly embraced diversity in recent years, with black members joining K-pop groups and duo Coco Avenue putting out a bilingual single in 2017.

Last but not least, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention South Korea’s emergent indie music scene, which includes a thriving crop of independent rap, hip-hop, and, increasingly, R&B artists, as well as a host of grassroots artists who’ve made waves on SoundCloud.

How K-pop became a global phenomenon
 

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So recently BTS (kpop boyband which has millions of kpop twitter stans that comment #billboardmusicawardsbts under every chartdata post) just released a new song YESTERDAY



How the fukk can hip hop compete with 60 MILLION + VIEWS IN A fukkING DAY. :damn:

I just looked on their social blade and they average 1 million likes a tweet. ONE MILLION. Kanye averages 40k :damn:

this could be the next big genre :ohhh:


 
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