Wow... that dude running the forum is absurd. Estelle & Tip made the exact point I always used to make when people would try to say "this is what hip-hop is, and this isn't" according to what their own musical taste is. You not agreeing with the message or language doesn't make it NOT art.
dream hampton is a dope writer, always was, but she can GTFOH with her mega-feminist/hurt woman shyt. Some of her favorite MCs have referred to women in less than glorious ways, and she still bump their shyt to this day.