Hold up....The Jazz are the 4th seed out west??

[DIMES]

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Heyward is legit but needs a few more years to mature.

Gobert, Hill, and their other shooting guard are all solid as fukk. Ya boy Diaw is just icing on the cake.

They won't come out of the West, but they are an excellent team.

 

[Damnshow]

chris paul has by far the most excuses from any nba superstar. His hollinger stats look all cute and nba fans 10 years from now on will be posting them advanced stats talmbout him never having great teammates while him doing everything on the court.

he just cant get it done because he doesnt have that mentality, most of nba legends have that moment in their career where they exceed the expectations. chris has none of them.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You just said the Clippers' playoff woes aren't CP3's fault, when quite clearly he shares a lot of the blame - hence me posting that choke against OKC in '14. And the choke against the Rockets the season after -



3-1 lead and choked it away against a garbage ass Rockets squad; could've closed the series out in G6 when they were up by 19 points near the 4th quarter, but they let Houston come back with their "best player" on the bench.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

2008 WCSF vs Spurs
- The Hornets had home court advantage in this series, yet Paul blew a 2-0 and 3-2 lead.
- The Spurs best players were Ginobili, Duncan, who was held to 15 ppg on 42% by the Hornet's interior defenders, mainly Tyson Chandler, and Parker, who was Paul's responsibility to slow down.

2009 1st Round vs Nuggets
- Chauncey Billups completely exposed and outplayed Paul in this series.
- Billups had 23-4-7 on 48% and 66% 3PT, 1.2 TOpg while Paul had 17-4-10 on 41%, 4.8 TOpg
- Billups scored way more efficiently and was the way better playmaker, Paul had quadruple the turnovers as Billups. Billups had a 6:1 AST:TO ratio to Paul's 2:1
- You can't blame Paul's teammates for not stepping up when Paul played so poorly in this series, especially with how past-prime Billups dominated him. Paul was dominated individually, not because of his team.

2012 WCSF vs Spurs
- Paul had a completely garbage series of 13-4-9 on 37% with 4.5 TOpg
- Eric Bledsoe of the Clippers outplayed the overrated Paul in this series, as he averaged 12-3-2-2-1 on 70% in 22 mpg to Paul's 13-4-9-3 on 37% in 38 mpg. Paul had an extra 16 mpg than Bledsoe, but only had a notable advantage in assists, and while shooting much, much, much worse
- Blake Griffin meanwhile was the best player on the team for the Clippers with 21-8-2-1-2 on 47%. Paul was the 3rd best player on his team when they lost this series, so how can you make the excuse that Paul didn't have help when he grossly underperformed himself and was outplayed by 2 of his teammates? Doesn't seem like he was carrying the team to me

2013 1st Rd vs Grizzlies
- The Clippers had a 2-0 lead, and in Games 3 and 4 Paul laid an egg, allowing the Grizzlies to tie the series 2-2
- In Game 3, Paul had 8-6-4 on 36% with 5 turnovers
- In Game 4, Paul only had 1 point and 1 assist on 0/2 FG in the 4th quarter, and his numbers came when the Clippers were losing by 20 with 3:30 and 3:10 left in the game.
- The Clippers were only losing by 4 entering the 4th quarter
- In Game 5, Paul was by himself as he dropped 35-6-4-3 on 46%, but in Game 6 he had a huge 30-10 on 79% from Matt Barnes and still lost with that help, while putting up a good 28-4-8 on 69%
- Paul allowed the Grizzlies back in the series thanks to his Game 3 and 4 chokes, and this went on to cost them as they lost 4 straight and blew a 2-0 lead.

2014 WCSF vs Thunder
- Paul had better help in this series compared to Westbrook as well, but Westbrook exposed him and outplayed him despite having less help, and outplayed him in the deciding clutch moments of Game 5 to take the eventually deciding game of the series.
- Westbrook had 28-6-9-2 on 49% and 50/57 FTs (89%) to Paul's 23-4-12-3 on 51% and 18/24 FTs (75%)
- Westbrook scored way more and way more efficiently as he went to the line more than twice as much, shooting almost 90%.
- Paul also choked away the eventually deciding game 5 with his 2 clutch turnovers including on the game winning attempt.
- He fouled Westbrook on his 3pter, so Russell made 3 FTs to take the lead. Westbrook outplayed him in the clutch of the eventually deciding game, further cementing that Westbrook outplayed him for the series.
- outside of Durant, nobody showed up for Westbrook in this series. Westbrook even had to outrebound Serge Ibaka. How embarrassing for the Thunder's number 1 interior presence to get outrebounded by his point guard
- the Clippers as a whole held all OKC players outside of Durant and Westbrook to 46 ppg combined (277 total points). The Clippers had 60 ppg combined from everyone not named Paul or Griffin (360 total points).
- OKC had less depth, a worse coach, and no scoring options outside their top 2 players, one of whom was Paul's responsibility to slow down and he didn't. LAC did a much better job defensively on OKC's supporting cast than vice versa
- the Clippers had the better coach in Doc Rivers, arguably the best PF in the league, a 2x rebounding champ, by no means were the odds overwhelmingly in OKCs favor. That's why Clippers had the perfect opportunity to go up 3-2 with the next game in LA, but Paul blew it at the end of Game 5
- Paul had more than enough help, still got exposed and outplayed by Westbrook, particularly in the clutch, and ended up losing. So much for Paul being able to "carry" a team. The Clippers lost because Paul was outplayed by Westbrook individually, not because of his teammates. Remember, the only reason they made it this far was because Paul's teammates bailed him out after getting exposed by Curry

2015 WCSF vs Rockets
- The Clippers had a 3-1 lead, and were basically guaranteed a WCF appearance entering the 4th quarter of Game 6 with a 13-point lead.
- But Paul, being the choker that he is, choked away the 4th quarter in Game 6 and disappeared once again,
- Paul had 1-6 FG, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk in the 4th quarter before he padded his stats with a 3pter when the game was over
- And no excuses about no help, because the Clippers held it down and got a 1-1 split in Houston without Paul. Griffin averaged 30-15-9 on 52% in the 2 games that Paul missed to steal homecourt.
- Griffin averaged 27-12-5 on 56%, Deandre's 14-13-2-2-2 on 72%. Griffin actually played better than Harden, the Rocket's best player who had 25-6-7 on just under 40%
- James Harden also shot under 40% for the series, so whoever was guarding Harden (and it wasn't Paul, who rarely matched up with him) did their job
- Patrick Beverly, the Rockets' starting PG and best perimeter defender didn't even play in this series, yet Paul couldn't take advantage.

@DIMES

 

[Damnshow]

@DIMES

yeah that resume is something else. Also 2008 is missing the fact that hornets could have taken #1 seed but they lost a few games at the end while lakers won theirs and they ended up 1st while kobe winning mvp. Basically chris paul choked his mvp too as he played as good as kobe.

 

[Splakavellie504]

The CP3 hate tho ...smh yall nikkas a trip man.

 

[BlackAchilles]

Not too surprising really, Gobert is the best defensive player rn and Gordon Hayward has the best work ethic and bball IQ we've seen in 25 years

 

[Mensch Fontana]

Western conference is trash, there's only two teams outchea

 

[DIMES]

You just said the Clippers' playoff woes aren't CP3's fault, when quite clearly he shares a lot of the blame - hence me posting that choke against OKC in '14. And the choke against the Rockets the season after -



3-1 lead and choked it away against a garbage ass Rockets squad; could've closed the series out in G6 when they were up by 19 points near the 4th quarter, but they let Houston come back with their "best player" on the bench.

Chris Paul is the main reason clippers are considered contenders every year. He's a clutch performer & that's final