Homeless reaches record 60,000 in New York

[ryda518]

NYC is a city for the rich.

I can't wait to move.

 

[theworldismine13]

Please name one economy where the working class controlled/controls production since you want to say working class rule is a failure. What are these "hellholes?" I specifically dealt with the historical conditions of the USSR at length in that thread and also addressed Cuba. The state taking everything over and acting as a monopoly capitalist is not socialism.

I care about working class Afrikans. I couldn't give a fukk about rich exploiters who happen to have brown skin.

The working class should never listen to the reactionary filth you promote. You fit right in line with the aristocrats of centuries past. "Rights? Democracy? Only kings and royalty are fit to rule and know best how to run society. The common man would bring us all to ruin!" Workers already produce all the wealth of society, and the ruling class is taking us right off a cliff with climate change, war, and economic crises. The working class is perfectly capable of running society and bypassing this parasitic class. At the end of the road lies either common ruin of humanity or socialism.

in other words you refuse to defend marxist regimes and marxist hellholes while peddling marxist theories

quibbling with soviet bureaucracy isnt gonna change the fact that you use the same underlying logic, the whole point of the USSR is to put the working class in control of the economy, you do realize that the definition of the word "soviet" is a local governing council,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_(council) the SOVIET union was built on the principle of local councils aka the workers controlling society, governing local council or local workers control of the economy means government control of the economy, period

of course the local council and local control grew into oppressive mess, that is what was predicted by anti communists

so again why are you peddling ideas that have been proven not to work 50 years ago

 

[JahFocus CS]

in other words you refuse to defend marxist regimes and marxist hellholes while peddling marxist theories

quibbling with soviet bureaucracy isnt gonna change the fact that you use the same underlying logic, the whole point of the USSR is to put the working class in control of the economy, you do realize that the definition of the word "soviet" is a local governing council,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_(council) the SOVIET union was built on the principle of local councils aka the workers controlling society, governing local council or local workers control of the economy means government control of the economy, period

of course the local council and local control grew into oppressive mess, that is what was predicted by anti communists

so again why are you peddling ideas that have been proven not to work 50 years ago

Your analytical skills - or, more accurately, the lack thereof - are really embarrassing.

I'm well aware of what the word "soviet" means, and there's also a ton of literature out there on how, from the end of Lenin's life onward, power was taken from the workers in the USSR.

Please educate yourself on the history, you have to teach yourself because it is painfully obvious you won't accept anything that is presented to you on this forum. If you are honestly willing to read, I am willing to share some sources, but I won't bother unless you show some initiative and willingness to think.

 

[theworldismine13]

Your analytical skills - or, more accurately, the lack thereof - are really embarrassing.

I'm well aware of what the word "soviet" means, and there's also a ton of literature out there on how, from the end of Lenin's life onward, power was taken from the workers in the USSR.

Please educate yourself on the history, you have to teach yourself because it is painfully obvious you won't accept anything that is presented to you on this forum. If you are honestly willing to read, I am willing to share some sources, but I won't bother unless you show some initiative and willingness to think.

of course it was taken, because it doesn't work, that type of system inevtaible leads to government control and government oppression, government and private business should be kept separate because the "soviet" system concentrates too much power in the government

putting a local council in charge of the economy doesnt work, dont you get it?

 

[JahFocus CS]

of course it was taken, because it doesn't work, that type of system inevtaible leads to government control and government oppression, government and private business should be kept separate because the "soviet" system concentrates too much power in the government

putting a local council in charge of the economy doesnt work, dont you get it?

We can't continue this conversation until you get a solid historical and analytical footing.

Don't be so secure and confident in ignorance breh, it is not a good look.

 

[theworldismine13]

We can't continue this conversation until you get a solid historical and analytical footing.

Don't be so secure and confident in ignorance breh, it is not a good look.

we can end the conversation anytime you want, i dont care, the only relevant historical fact is that marxism failed and it turned into something worse than the capitalism it was trying to critique, until you abosrb those basic historical facts you arent really saying anything

 

[JahFocus CS]

we can end the conversation anytime you want, i dont care, the only relevant historical fact is that marxism failed and it turned into something worse than the capitalism it was trying to critique, until you abosrb those basic historical facts you arent really saying anything

End of discussion then. Your lack of actual analysis and lame, tired, unsophisticated parroting of ahistorical status quo propaganda won't cut it bud.

 

[theworldismine13]

End of discussion then. Your lack of actual analysis and lame, tired, unsophisticated parroting of ahistorical status quo propaganda won't cut it bud.

ok........sure, we can end this anytime you want

i would want to end it to if i was getting exposed for peddling a discredited political philosophy