Hot Take: Diddy ruined Hip-Hop worse than Gangster rap and Drill did

[RedEye Jedi]

Diddy ruined hip-hop with the fake flexification jiggy bullshyt he pushed after Biggie passed. And he nasty

@Art Barr called it


Drill/Gangster rap at least gives an avenue for folks to leave that street life alone.

Diddy jiggy shiny rap just promotes naked capitalism and putting more money in cac pockets.

 

[Plankton]

Bad Boy put out Faith Evans, 112 , Total, Mario Winans and Carl Thomas singing about love and OP thinks that was worse then drill rap.

 

[RedEye Jedi]

Bad Boy put out Faith Evans, 112 , Total, Mario Winans and Carl Thomas singing about love and OP thinks that was worse then drill rap.

I said worse for HIPHOP, not for R&B. It's cac shyt to group them together.

 

[Plankton]

I said worse for HIPHOP, not for R&B. It's cac shyt to group them together.

Pretend Biggie & Mase wasn't on 112's "Only You" remix. Pretend Biggie wasn't on Total's first single. Pretend Biggie wasn't all up in that Faith Evans "You used to love me" video. Pretend Mario Winans wasn't all over that "Been Around The World remix" Pretend Total wasn't singing the hook for Biggie's Hypnotize and Juicy singles. Pretend 112 wasn't on the Biggie song Missing You. Pretend Faith and 112 weren't on Puffy's hit song "I'll Be Missing You." Pretend Total wasn't on the hook of Mase's 2nd single "Tell Me What You Want"

Saying that grouping the R&B artists of Bad Boy with the rappers on Bad Boy is cac shyt as if those combinations weren't literally a part of Bad Boy's history is you not knowing anything about the history, therefore making your opinion null and void.

 

[Cool DOC]

You really think rapping about wanting more jewelry, flashy cars & clothes was more detrimental than music about openly seeking out your opponents to kill THEN disrespect them even more in death??

 

[TheRtist]

lets blame Diddy because Too Short wasnt in a flashy car on his debut album cover in 1987 before Diddy had a job

 

[RedEye Jedi]

You really think rapping about wanting more jewelry, flashy cars & clothes was more detrimental than music about openly seeking out your opponents to kill them THEN disrespect them even more in death??

Yes because it has died down. The jiggy shyt remains.

lets blame Diddy because Too Short wasnt in a flashy car on his debut album cover in 1987 before Diddy had a job

Too Short actually lived that life tho. Diddy promoted fake flexing.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Diddy's responsible for the demise of hip hop probably more than any one person, yes.

 

[Art Barr]

Diddy ruined hip-hop with the fake flexification jiggy bullshyt he pushed after Biggie passed. And he nasty

@Art Barr called it


Drill/Gangster rap at least gives an avenue for folks to leave that street life alone.

Diddy jiggy shiny rap just promotes naked capitalism and putting more money in cac pockets.

Oh fukk'n hell yeah!!!
Preciate it handshake.



Art Barr

 

[Cool DOC]

Yes because it has died down. The jiggy shyt remains.


Too Short actually lived that life tho. Diddy promoted fake flexing.

I'd have to sit & stfu if you said Puff "allegedly" played a YUGE part in getting two of the best to do it murked but if you standing on this jiggy movement you wildin.

Its averaging 80 degrees where im at now & dudes is still wearing sheistys. Thats the ramification of drill music. When I went home to NY last month that sound/style was still prevalent. Drill was & still is way more harmful homie.

 

[AVXL]

I mean being directly responsible for the death of Biggie and Pac is some demonic shyt, can’t argue that point

 

[Barney Rubble]

These dudes are too young but hiphop took it's biggest dive in quality the more popular Diddy got. Once popular samples and rnb hooks became accepted thanks to puffy, shyt was never the same.

 

[Art Barr]

I said worse for HIPHOP, not for R&B. It's cac shyt to group them together.

Tabled'eem.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Pretend Biggie & Mase wasn't on 112's "Only You" remix. Pretend Biggie wasn't on Total's first single. Pretend Biggie wasn't all up in that Faith Evans "You used to love me" video. Pretend Mario Winans wasn't all over that "Been Around The World remix" Pretend Total wasn't singing the hook for Biggie's Hypnotize and Juicy singles. Pretend 112 wasn't on the Biggie song Missing You. Pretend Faith and 112 weren't on Puffy's hit song "I'll Be Missing You." Pretend Total wasn't on the hook of Mase's 2nd single "Tell Me What You Want"

Saying that grouping the R&B artists of Bad Boy with the rappers on Bad Boy is cac shyt as if those combinations weren't literally a part of Bad Boy's history is you not knowing anything about the history, therefore making your opinion null and void.

Hiphop is not disco or rnb.

In the new school way of thought. It was highly taboo.
they ever be merged. As hiphop is not disco or rnb. Nor should the music.
that is derived that is culturally juxtaposed.
should not have elements of disco, pop, or rnb.

You lack hiphop history here.

Plus are showing.
what jiggy sellout gateway allowed you.
to even discuss hiphop devoid of hiphop knowledge and rrlevent cultural timeline.
That erroded hiphop proteftion mechanisms. Also forcing hiphop to take responsibility.
for people's erroneously use of the business of rap. To make errant gross culture thief cultural misappropriation of hiphop
.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

I'd have to sit & stfu if you said Puff "allegedly" played a YUGE part in getting two of the best to do it murked but if you standing on this jiggy movement you wildin.

Its averaging 80 degrees where im at now & dudes is still wearing sheistys thats the ramification of drill music, when I went home to NY last month that sound/style was still prevalent. Drill was & still is way more harmful homie.

Drill would never have any creation outside of horrorcore. Nor staying power culturally in hiphop. After xraided in 1993. If not for puff in 94 till big death in 1995. As a matter of fact.
As horrorcore died with flatliners and gravediggers. As commercially viable.
While also loathed culturally.
In the sale envelope.
If not for puff.
On no way out systemically downgrading quality using grief candy from big death.
Damaging the standards, mores, norms and protection mechanisms of hiphop beyond repair.
Including lowering rhe barrier of entry.


Art Barr