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  • This has been the best year or so in wrestling since the mega powers run, or 2001 wwe...or 96-97 nitro. Work rate is at an all time high, even with the finisher spam and kickouts. The worst worker in the fed is probably Braun stroman and he is a good base for small guys and he is fukkin prime flair compared to the previous guys like warlord or Hercules or renegade etc.
  • WWE Has done something interesting by starting to acknowledge NJPW and TNA a small amount, and by having a televised developmental...they've positioned raw and SD as the effective global MAJOR LEAGUES. Where they can tell the story that talent elsewhere like Japan and roh has "always wanted to make it to the big league" and not ignoring the rest of their career...acknowledging that hey "this guy is REALLY GOOD...YOU SHOULD CARE ABOUT HIM, but let's see how he does on the big stage" is a great strategy.
  • This is a talent renaissance...if five years ago I said "the biggest names in wwe outside of cena Orton Brock and hhh will be Tyler black, aj styles, prince devitt, Kevin Steen, nakamura, el generico, Jon moxley, Kenta, oh and festus will be back and credible...I would've said you're out of your fukking mind. Its very enjoyable
  • And while I'm here...AJ STYLES...WTF. He had great work in Japan but he has been so fukkin good this year...its shameful his prime was wasted in Florida...unless this is his new prime. His cena fued was great and yet another on cenas list. He is the best wrestler in the world arguably. Which brings me to my top 15 list- "who entertains me the most"
    • Seth Rollins
    • Aj styles
    • Okada
    • Kevin Owens
    • Nakamura
    • Randy Orton
    • New day
    • Brock lesnar
    • Sami zayn
    • Sasha banks
    • Bray wyatt
    • Finn balor
    • John cena
    • Asuka
    • Bailey
  • This summer I've been watching a lot of 96-97 nitro, follow syxx career. Started at halls debut, just got to Bret's debut after starrcade 97. I watched this all live too but I was 13. New impressions;
    • The outsiders are the GOAT tag team. Period. Everything they did was money. They put other guys over A LOT but never lost their heat...you can't say that about lod or Steiners. And going to freebird rules when hall or Nash was hurt or syxx was gone was great. Low key syxx and hall was a BETTER DUO than Nash and hall because of the size combo. 96 syxx was amazing.
    • Konnan is one of the most underrated wrestlers in america. Dude feuded with the entire luchadores in wcw at once and had the heat to do so, and his matches were crisp. Rey on crutches saying "you say viva la raza YOU ARE NOT LA RAZA!!" Was fire :whoo:
    • The early Goldberg buildup was better than I remembered.
    • Glacier was WORSE
    • WAAAAAY too much time was spent on piper and kevin fukkin green.
    • The exact moment that the wheels fell off was the nitro before starrcade that was nWo nitro...got damn that was awful. then starrcade...then thunder...it was raw > nitro then. Xpac debuts on raw in a month or so of my watching , I won't click back even on the network.
  • You will all regret the brand split soon. How we forget the past...
  • I can't believe you all were wishing for and praising the return of JOBBERS. Unreal. Watch wrestling challenge then watch SNME tell me which was better. They already had jobbers for all intents and purposes (social outcasts?) But you want NO NAME GUYS?
  • Zayn Owens is the best blood fued since maybe Sullivan / Benoit.
That's it for now. I was gone because thecoli is fukking awful if its not football season. Tsc is consistent though, I'll give you that.
 
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I disagree this is the best year in wrestling in a while. For WWE, 2016 is not touching 2013 in terms of consistently good matches. What 2016 has over most years is an incredibly deep and versatile roster that given the chance could blow other eras out of the water.
 

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Ed byke... :obama:

SummerSlam thread should be entertaining. :brawk:
 

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I disagree this is the best year in wrestling in a while. For WWE, 2016 is not touching 2013 in terms of consistently good matches. What 2016 has over most years is an incredibly deep and versatile roster that given the chance could blow other eras out of the water.

I don't know, breh. This year has had the following:

Sami/Nakamura at NXT Takeover
Rollins/Ambrose/Reigns at Battleground
KO/Sami at Battleground
Solid MITB match
American Alpha/Revival
Charlotte/Sasha/Becky at WM
Charlotte/Sasha on RAW last week
Roman/AJ Styles at Extreme Rules
John Cena/AJ Styles at MITB

And it's only August 1st today. The best wrestler was out most of the year too (Rollins). There's still four whole months of more memorable matches left. This might be the best year the WWE has ever had in terms of match quality.
 

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Don't you love the "why haven't they built this up without a story...I mean aren't they gonna have Orton run over anyone with a car? Or have them fight over a woman?"

They're already stars...and they haven't fought :heh: that's the story.

People also mad they picked Orton over some indie darling, like Brock is going to waste his time with non legit star :mjlol: Brock doesn't have the match unless he signs off on it
 

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  • And while I'm here...AJ STYLES...WTF. He had great work in Japan but he has been so fukkin good this year...its shameful his prime was wasted in Florida...unless this is his new prime. His cena fued was great and yet another on cenas list. He is the best wrestler in the world arguably. Which brings me to my top 15 list- "who entertains me the most"
    • Seth Rollins
    • Aj styles
    • Okada
    • Kevin Owens
    • Nakamura
    • Randy Orton
    • New day
    • Brock lesnar
    • Sami zayn
    • Sasha banks
    • Bray wyatt
    • Finn balor
    • John cena
    • Asuka
    • Bailey
  • Zayn Owens is the best blood fued since maybe Sullivan / Benoit.
That's it for now. I was gone because thecoli is fukking awful if its not football season. Tsc is consistent though, I'll give you that.

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I don't know, breh. This year has had the following:

Sami/Nakamura at NXT Takeover
Rollins/Ambrose/Reigns at Battleground
KO/Sami at Battleground
Solid MITB match
American Alpha/Revival
Charlotte/Sasha/Becky at WM
Charlotte/Sasha on RAW last week
Roman/AJ Styles at Extreme Rules
John Cena/AJ Styles at MITB

And it's only August 1st today. The best wrestler was out most of the year too (Rollins). There's still four whole months of more memorable matches left. This might be the best year the WWE has ever had in terms of match quality.

The thing that takes away from 2016 and 2015 for me is that for every very good-great match there was a lot of "meh" in between. I read the list you put and I go :leon: but then I remember how forgettable have been the shows, how hard is to watch RAW, how little SD has mattered (and how few standout matches it has had) and how most PPVs look dope on paper but end up being "just ok" with 1 match worth a watch.

I'm not sure throwing out lists is worth it because you might see what I'm about to post and say "but that wasn't as good as X match was this year" and that's not really my point. What made 2013 so great was that for every very good-great match there were 1 or two other really entertaining matches that made shows flow better. You also had Main Event still mattering and having some really entertaining matches weekly. But just for the fun of it, by August 1st, 2013 had these to show:

Del Rio vs Big Show LMS at Smackdown
Cena vs. CM Punk on RAW
The Shield vs. Cena/Ryback/Seamus at Elimination Chamber
Punk vs Taker at Mania
Punk vs Jericho at Payback
Ziggler vs Del Rio at Payback
An awesome MITB match involving new guys (the opener of the PPV)
Cena vs Henry at MITB
Kofi vs Cesaro at Main Event
Sheamus vs Cesaro at Main Event
Bryan vs Sheamus on RAW
Bryan vs. Seth Rollins on RAW
Bryan vs Cesaro (and the Gauntlet) on RAW
The Shield vs HellNo/Kofi at RAW
The Shield vs HellNo/Taker at RAW
The Shield vs HellNo/Orton at SD
Regal vs Kassius Ohno at NXT
Emma vs Paige at NXT


And after that you had Punk/Brock, Cena/DBry, Shield vs Cody & Goldust, Rollins/Cena, DBry/Orton on RAW, Zayn/Cesaro and Regal/Cesaro at NXT and whole bunch of entertaining matches that made weekly shows more fun to watch. PPVs weren't that great, I'll give you that, but the amount of dope matches and combinations WWE had in 2013 is gonna be really hard to match.
 
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