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Have any of the brehs actually fix and flipped a house?

What was your experience?

What costs were associated with it?

What did you get caught off guard by?

How did you finance it?

I have my money and a decent GC lined up. I'm just looking for a deal. Looking to put something under contract by mid January at the latest.
 

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OP, before you start to do anything, you need to do a title search and lien search on the property. Typically these properties not only have back property taxes due (this can add up to a LOT of money), but city code violations, outstanding mortgages, utility balances, permit violations, chain of title could be clouded, etc.

Typically the investors I work with do this kind of due diligence before they buy any property, but shyt, for $200, it might be worth the risk. But in case it's not, don't go dumping money into a property you'll never make money on.

Use a site like this to obtain the title history: https://www.propertyshark.com/info/property-title-search/. If you want, PM me and I'll give you my email address and you can send me the report and I can let you know what came back on the search and what it means.


As someone who invests and also handles real estate transactions in which my investor clients purchase properties, my best advice would be the following...


- You can actually get into real estate flipping with LITTLE TO NO MONEY OF YOUR OWN. This is probably the easiest way to do so, as most don't have a ton of money just sitting around to dump into an investment property. And most investment properties that you'll see good margins on as far as fixing them up, you'll never be able to get a bank loan on because they won't pass inspection, so you'll need to buy cash. So how do you get into the game without having to do that? Go out and try to find distressed properties that look like they haven't been maintained and see if the owner would be willing to sell the property for immediate cash. Or you can spend a few hundred bucks on those signs you see on the side of the road that say things like "We buy houses cash", etc. When you're drawing up the contract with the seller, make sure the contract is assignable and can be terminated by only the buying party at their leisure. Also make sure the closing date is wayyyyy out into the future. Once you're under contract with the seller, you need to assign the contract. This means that you need to find a buyer who is going to pay money to YOU just for taking your place in the contract. If the deal you negotiated with the seller is good enough, any buyer will gladly come in and give you a decent assignment fee AKA finder's fee to take your position in the contract.

So how this typically works is this: You find a house that: A) the owner died and the house belongs to his/her heirs and they want nothing to do with it and just want to sell it asap without having to go through the hassle of listing it with a realtor, etc. B) the owner is behind on his payments and he has been getting foreclosure letters from the bank and he's all but given up on saving the property and is just waiting to be foreclosed on at that point or C) search the county property tax auction list. It'll tell you which houses are going to be sold at auction in the future, so you can contact those owners and tell them you'll offer them like $15k for their home or they can lose it at the auction next month and not get anything for it.

These are just some examples, but this is how it typically happens. Now, say you're under contract with the seller for a property going to tax auction at $15k but the property could be worth $80k after $10k of work is done to it. There's a ton of cash investors who would gladly pay YOU $20k just to take your position as the buyer in the contract. So on the day of closing, you'll get your $20k, the buyer you assigned the contract to has paid you $20k + $15k + $10k to fix it, so $45k, and he can sell the property for $80k. The seller would have gotten nothing if the property was foreclosed and sold at auction, and he gets $15k to move somewhere. So everyone wins.


This is just an example, but these transactions are happening every day. If you can simply find motivated sellers who are looking to get rid of their houses ASAP, you can make a lot of money in real estate without ever having to put up money of your own. Once you've done that and made some money, then you can just do the same thing as far as finding the properties, but just buy them and fix up the properties on your own and sell them, you'd make an even bigger profit.

Commercial real estate >>>>>

  • Build investor list and find asset based lenders
  • Find commercial properties with an owner whose held it for .10-20 years
  • Send letter to express interest and multiple follow ups
  • Negotiate owner financing
  • Borrow funds for 10% from investor to give seller
  • Take over property from seller
  • Borrow against property from asset based lender
  • Payback investor for bridge loan
  • Force appreciation by raising rent or reducing operation costs
  • Hand over to property management company

Rinse and repeat...the best type are industrial/office buildings with triple net lease tenants.....apartment blocks are a b!tch for regular investors :pharrell:

Off course there's things to consider like deal analysis, negotiation skill, copywriting
and also the local job economy but a deal like this will provide you with income from day one and you can get discounts with contractors since all your jobs are under one location and best of all property mgmt handles everything.

Hell you can give up an apartment to a manager rent free so he can deal with everything on site.


I plan to set up an LLC, so I can buy tax notes and flip houses. Is there anything I should be aware of before I set it up?

Is there an alternative way to find
B) the owner is behind on his payments and he has been getting foreclosure letters from the bank
besides using the county property tax auction list?

If I find a motivated seller via the county property tax auction list. How can I
make sure the closing date is wayyyyy into the future
if their auction date is coming up?

on the day of closing, you'll get your $20k, the buyer you assigned the contract to has paid you $20k + $15k + $10k to fix it, so $45k, and he can sell the property for $80k

What happens to the pending auction after the buyer closes on the house?
 
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I'm very interested. It's so many variables and it takes lots of leg work. Are you working with a realtor?
 

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I plan to set up an LLC, so I can buy tax notes and flip houses. Is there anything I should be aware of before I set it up?

Is there an alternative way to find besides using the county property tax auction list?

If I find a motivated seller via the county property tax auction list. How can I if their auction date is coming up?



What happens to the pending auction after the buyer closes on the house?
1. No an LLC is what I have and has been working out.

2. The auction date is usually in the paper or on the county website. You'll have to find out if you're in an equitable state (has until the auction date to clear up the loan) or statutory state (has a certain amount of time after the house is sold at the auction to clear the loan up).

3. The house wouldn't go to auction because whatever amount you had it under contract for would have to cover the total amount owed on the house.
 
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I mainly try to work with owners and stay away from realtors. Most are not helpful and money hungry
So you must try to stake out for sale by owners.
I think a good realtor can help
 

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I'd be vary wary. Also it's still unclear what's in store for the real estate with this new tax bill.
 

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I'd be vary wary. Also it's still unclear what's in store for the real estate with this new tax bill.
Interest rates are at an all time low and property values are going up. It's a seller's market. Definitely time to find deals and flip.
 
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I’m thinking about getting a home equity line of credit and start flipping. Has anyone here ever used this method to flip and are there any cons on doing this? Because it seems appealing to me by all the research I’ve done.
 

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I’m thinking about getting a home equity line of credit and start flipping. Has anyone here ever used this method to flip and are there any cons on doing this? Because it seems appealing to me by all the research I’ve done.
I've heard of lots of people doing this. Specifically for rentals. I haven't done it myself but the only con I've heard of course is that it adds to your debt. Even if its paid halfway down the debt is still looked at as the total amount of the credit line.
 

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Hmm. . . some real jewels being dropped.

So what do you do if you have more than one investor into a property? Just a question outta curiousity
 

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Hmm. . . some real jewels being dropped.

So what do you do if you have more than one investor into a property? Just a question outta curiousity

You need an LLC or an S Corp. Depends on if you're flipping, renting, or managing property.
 
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