How can democrats win if they're going to be labeled "woke"...if woke now just means black?

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Nah they need spines. The democrats in office don't have 'fukk you' energy for anyone other than their own. They can get aggressive with anyone who wants to take the party back to its social spending and labor roots but are desperate to not look bad in front of Republicans. .

But this goes back to Republicans ability to spin stuff. Democrats can't even say BLM without it being spun into something it's not
I use to think that narrative about Bernie Sanders presidency being a waste because none of his agenda would get passed was :duck: but the fact Biden moderate ass can't even get shyt done kind of proves it's real. Moderates inside the party too scared to support agendas cause they know Republicans campaigning in their districts will use it against them. Of course some of this is donor/lobbyist driven but the numbers don't lie and white voters are dumb as shyt
People who do have that fukk you attitude get the full court press from Republicans and basically are viewed as caricatures of a socialist liberal outside of their constituent zones (ie: the Squad, Bernie)
 

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The Democrats need their version of trump. Someone who is bent on doing right (as opposed to doing wrong) and doesn’t give a rats ass about public opinion. The current political climate calls for someone with charisma. Hate to say it. But to deny it would be reckless.

It's impossible. The closest we ever got or are gonna get is Jimmy Carter. Well Jimmy was the last. The real person you're talking about was FDR. He even packed the court. That man was legitimately for the people.
 

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Doublespeak

They're trying to muddy the convo to the point where they spit gibberish talking points and never acknowledge facts or logic or any of the things that make conversation conversation.

So that's CRT and election integrity and wokeism and Brandon and all those little buzzwords.

If a discussion begins they just says these phrases in whatever sequence and end with an allusion to civil war.

Treat them like you would treat a child talking gibberish or like someone you know who cheated but is trying to lie their way out

The song "wasn't me" comes to mind. Did he really BELIEVE it wasn't him? No. He knew it was him. But no matter what he's gonna stick to his little motto.

I saw you

Wasn't me

The bish is still running through the back yard now

Wasn't me
 

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Democrats have to stop being afraid of calling their white cousins racist
but democrats HAVE been calling out racism

Buttigieg says America’s highways are racist and infrastructure bill will help fix it
US transport secretary Pete Buttigieg said highway designs in the country were “racist,” and claimed that the new infrastructure bill would help fix it.

Democrats are freely talking about systemic racism. Republicans have Donald Trump.
Today, the issue is front and center of the Democratic presidential primary elections. It has come up at every single Democratic debate. It has been raised by the candidates even when they're asked about issues unrelated to race.

Just look at this answer from Bernie Sanders, when asked about the racial disparities in the criminal justice system at a Democratic debate in February:




I can post more examples but im in the middle of a meeting...

where did this narrative that democrats aren't calling out societal/governmental racism come from?
 

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Get some better policies
Stop lying to your base
Stop punking out
 
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