How Did This Talib Kweli, Ebro Confrontation Go Unnoticed?

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11:00 minute make


Kweli admits that he paid to have his record with Miguel played on Hot 97...Ebro tries to downplay it and act like he doesn't know about independant middle men that take payola for records...

:wtf:


Dude admitted to using payola right to Ebros face and then Ebro startes stuttering and back peddling on some :lupe: sh1t, then tries to get defiant and play the tough guy role...

How did we miss this? Talib doing all types of snitching and blowing up spots... B. Dot was 100% right thats why Ebro got so brolic...

:wow:
 

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11:00 minute make


Kweli admits that he paid to have his record with Miguel played on Hot 97...Ebro tries to downplay it and act like he doesn't know about independant middle men that take payola for records...

:wtf:


Dude admitted to using payola right to Ebros face and then Ebro startes stuttering and back peddling on some :lupe: sh1t, then tries to get defiant and play the tough guy role...

How did we miss this? Talib doing all types of snitching and blowing up spots... B. Dot was 100% right thats why Ebro got so brolic...

:wow:



what u talking about? he clearly aknowledged that ebro played his record off the strength of the relationship they had and he had to pay a PROMOTER who then did what they did to get the record played in other parts of the country .. be it payola .. or as well as utilizing relationships .. like he did with ebro. (whatever the promoter did .. he isn't really privy'ed to .. he saw the reports and it worked)

also .. im def not a ebro supporter .. but hot 97 is actually very competive in ratings with power1051 right now has been the case since like november .. .. both power1051 n hot 97 get their ass kicked in ratings but by like z100 and other pop stations. in general hip hop radio isn't that well rated in new york .. truth be told
 

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once again i gotta preface what im gonna say by saying 'i'm not a ebro defender .. in fact i think mr cee not fukking w/ me after that charlamagne interview .. contributed to him not wanting to have a sit down interview wit me.'

but ill say .. yea yall right to get at ebro for his cockiness and shyt he says ...

but as a program director .. i think he's doing a great job. u gotta understand how radio works. he's just public and visible unlike power 1051 program director.

also ppl get so hung up on 'what hot 97 use to be' .. well PPM shook the game up ... urban radio ratings fell across the board cuz nyggas who claim to love hip hop don't listen to radio as much as they say .. they just complain from the outside ..also urban demographic is the minority which before it didn't show it as that.

so in terms of being a program director .. stop thinking ebro can save new york hip hop ... he's doing a job and doing it exactly how he should .. why should a oakland cat carry the flag for a city he's now working in if the ppl who "care" wont even participate and suppprt the shyt they claim they support.

but again .. a far as the slick talk on the radio .. and calls dudes minor leagues .. and offending peoples music and fan base .. thats on him. he likes riling ppl up.
 

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bu bu bu bu but jay z and dame gave funk flex a bottle of moet and some money to play some tracks on the radio tho
 

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what u talking about? he clearly aknowledged that ebro played his record off the strength of the relationship they had and he had to pay a PROMOTER who then did what they did to get the record played in other parts of the country .. be it payola .. or as well as utilizing relationships .. like he did with ebro. (whatever the promoter did .. he isn't really privy'ed to .. he saw the reports and it worked)

I dunno...

So what part of the country was giving a Talib and Miguel song 1,000 spins? He seems like he was hedging to not totally implicate Ebro but some palms were obviously greased..He said Power 105 didn't play his record at all, so where did the 1000 spins come from? What was he talking about and why did Ebro "nothing moves without my word" act like Talib was speaking Mandarin?
 

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I dunno...

So what part of the country was giving a Talib and Miguel song 1,000 spins? He seems like he was hedging to not totally implicate Ebro but some palms were obviously greased..He said Power 105 didn't play his record at all, so where did the 1000 spins come from? What was he talking about and why did Ebro "nothing moves without my word" act like Talib was speaking Mandarin?

A lot of smaller radio stations im guessing ... Its easy for a promoter to 'grease' a music director or program director within smaller markets where they dont have that much accountability or scrutiny. If you r a program director for a station in the midwest and a promoter u know comes to u and say .. Yo .. I'mma give you 5 Stacks Just run this song 30 times this week. Of course you're gonna do it. Cuz thats 1/8th of ur salary right there .. in a week. For Ebro now .. its not worth it. All the DJs under Ebro are monitored by a strict playlist set by ebro .. so thats why he takes it so personal.

Any DJ on hot 97 could be making 5 stacks in a night .. why risk ur career for what u could make a night or a weekend for a whole week or maybe more for that money.


Get it?

Ebro and his music directors have to sign off on any songs that get put into rotation (music played between 7 am and 7 pm . Monday to friday)
Ebro put Mr. Cee in charge of mix shows (shows outside that 7-7 range ... so songss u hear after that aren't programmed they are played by mix Djs ... Flex has a lot of flexibility ... but for the average mix show dj they play off a LIST that is kept up and approved by mister cee .. and overseen by ebro. So theoretically nothing played on hot 97 without ebro signing off .. because he can get fired for something played at 3 AM on a Sunday night ...

But I doubt those 1000 spins came in major cities ...

Music Promoters work with many stations .. from college stations .. public access stations ... small market stations ... and even big league stations like power 1051 n hot 97)
 
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A lot of smaller radio stations im guessing ... Its easy for a promoter to 'grease' a music director or program director within smaller markets where they dont have that much accountability or scrutiny. If you r a program director for a station in the midwest and a promoter u know comes to u and say .. Yo .. I'mma give you 5 Stacks Just run this song 30 times this week. Of course you're gonna do it. Cuz thats 1/8th of ur salary right there .. in a week. For Ebro now .. its not worth it.

Get it?

Ebro and his music directors have to sign off on any songs that get put into rotation (music played between 7 am and 7 pm . Monday to friday)
Ebro put Mr. Cee in charge of mix shows (shows outside that 7-7 range ... so songss u hear after that aren't programmed they are played by mix Djs ... Flex has a lot of flexibility ... but for the average mix show dj they play off a LIST that is kept up and approved by mister cee .. and overseen by ebro. So theoretically nothing played on hot 97 without ebro signing off .. because he can get fired for something played at 3 AM on a Sunday night ...

But I doubt those 1000 spins came in major cities ...

Music Promoters work with many stations .. from college stations .. public access stations ... small market stations ... and even big league stations like power 1051 n hot 97)
Okay.. Im trusting your word on a lot of this because you have access and experience that I don't have...

But how reasonable do you find it that Ebro is totally dumfounded of the process of indy agents taking money to influence DJ's and PD's? The dude talks about NY city like they're in a bubble, when their playlist sounds the same as radio I hear in Ga, Florida and D.C?


I just find it hard to believe that the whole country is in on a hustle but NYC (the hustling capital of the world) is keeping their nose clean and doing everything by the book...
 

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Okay.. Im trusting your word on a lot of this because you have access and experience that I don't have...

But how reasonable do you find it that Ebro is totally dumfounded of the process of indy agents taking money to influence DJ's and PD's? The dude talks about NY city like they're in a bubble, when their playlist sounds the same as radio I hear in Ga, Florida and D.C?


I just find it hard to believe that the whole country is in on a hustle but NYC (the hustling capital of the world) is keeping their nose clean and doing everything by the book...

NYC use to be on it .. thats why the government cracked down on payola on all NYC stations. Ebro was a hire to really appease nyggas .. by giving them a black figure head .. but also to have someone that has the corporate know hows of a white person. (power 1051 pd is white)


but absolutely NYC use to be on that bullshyt. But people got arrested and fired because of it. Now when the music game is dwindling down so much.. radio is losing its impact .. its less appealing to risk your job in the primary market for what will essentially be chump change.

In NYC right now .. Payola Exist for Clubs not the radio .. Ppl will pay Djs to play their music in strip clubs and in clubs in general and act like its hot for ppl to catch on. Radio in NYC is paranoid as shyt and everyone is micro managing. They are still in what would be equivalent to Airports after 9/11 mode.

Now... When you talk about playlists as in 'programing' playlists. As i said 7-7 time slots. Those are INFLUENCED by record labels buying advertisements (you can look at that and say .. its kinda payola .. but the government doesn't consider it so since you are paying for advertising on the radio .. which being a BUSINESS which radio is .. if someone is buying ad space on ur station ... even tho they can't dictate what you play .. you are MORE inclined to play their shyt). Not all the time buying advertisement space means a record will be in rotation .. most notably last year with wiz khalifa .. label had tons of ads on there for his album .. but it was never being put in rotation ...

Research is the other factor in figuring out what gets 'programmed' in those 7-7 slots. From a business model .. your company (Radio station) is more appealing just like a TV station when it has the MOST viewers ... PPM accurately tells a program director or corporate heads when people are listening .. and when they stop listening .. even down to the minute .. where a song is played

so if they get stats saying when Beyonce - Drunk in Love is on .. the station Maintains 99 % of its listeners for those 3 minutes ... However if you throw on 'Young Thug - Danny Brown' only 40 % of the listeners still listen. The choice is clear .. you don't play danny brown... u want to keep as many people listen .. you might go with a Jay Z ft. Timberlake - Holy Grail which is also at 99 % .. so you still are maintaining your audience. The 7-7 Slot is very important because Advertisers ... want to Market products to the WORKING class .. and those people listen between 7-7. After Dark listening are people going to clubs .. young people and people who generally aren't catered to by advertisers .. WHY .. They don't Purchase product ..

Music travels so fast now that once drake, beyonce, rick ross, kendrick, j cole, miguel puts out a song ... it doesn't catch on region by region anymore (This would account for diferent playlists in cities) It catches on Nationally ... So most playlists are 80 % the same... To be honest the most different playlists in the last 7-10 years is from the west coast .... People over there generally support and Love shyt that come from their own people .. which means ppl will be listening to a local artist with comparable retention rates as a Drunk in Love by Beyonce ... so it JUSTIFIES playing local talent.

I'm sorry to tell yall its really all research .. its a math game. Ebro is fighting a losing battle pissing people off ... not enough people will ever mobilize not in NYc to cause certain rappers to get programmed in rotations from within NYC ... Troy Ave is the closest one right now.


I hate long posts .. and i just did one .. smh
 
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