How long should a wrestler remain undefeated after their debut?

Straw Hat Luffy

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“Wins and losses don’t matter” is entirely different than “it’s how they lose”


And if chad gable is “over” then i’m sure you’d say Otis is over too.
Yeah the first one was a statement and then I went into a reasoning after you quoted me. I don’t know what you want me to say.

Wins and losses don’t matter = statement

It’s how you win and lose = reasoning

I shouldn’t have to explain this to you.

And yeah Otis is a crowd favorite what’s your point? And he’s featured on tv a lot
 

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Yeah the first one was a statement and then I went into a reasoning after you quoted me. I don’t know what you want me to say.

Wins and losses don’t matter = statement

It’s how you win and lose = reasoning


I shouldn’t have to explain this to you.

And yeah Otis is a crowd favorite what’s your point? And he’s featured on tv a lot
Contradiction.



And if Otis is your metric of someone being over then aight we'll just agree to disagree
 

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Contradiction.



And if Otis is your metric of someone being over then aight we'll just agree to disagree

Well obviously I’m not saying he’s Cody Rhodes over j said he’s a crowd favorite


Op brought up Rey Fenix, Julia, and Penta losing… they’re fine
 

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Dominik mysterio spent the last year eating pins and he walked away from that getting dirty dom chants

Seth Rollins spent 2021-22 collecting losses. In fact, he had more losses than anyone on the roster that year (seriously, look it up)

His (Seth) win rate was like 38% but his presentation changed.. he started wearing zesty outfits and acting like Joker which in turn won the crowd over.. all while losing the majority of the time


Wins and losses are apart of a wrestlers presentation so they obviously matter, but what gets exhausting is the overemphasis some of you ignorantly put on it. It’s such a surface level way to watch wrestling. There’s so much that goes into winning the crowed over. You can win every match and still get no reaction if you aren’t connecting, and vice versa. We’ve seen it both ways where some Sylvester Terkay ass nikka is plowing through the roster and getting crickets, and times when someone like the miz is nearly exclusive to the loss column yet always gets a reaction when he appears.
 
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if I was a wrestler they'd have to let me go undefeated until I retire bc I'd be so over and strong
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and the only person I'd let over in my last match is Rhea

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pin me baby :ahh:
 

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It should go by the crowd reactions and pops or heat that wrestler is receiving
 
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