How Steph Curry was a choker

[Shadow King]

My guy has one shytty playoff series (2016 finals) and he can't never live it down with yall lol. That was clearly an outlier series that isnt in the slightest a synopsis of how he performs in the 'offs.....and yall kno that. Yall hold him to an even higher standard than Lebron, whose had twice as many trash finals exhibitions, yet still gets paraded around like they didn't happen.
Tough jury I tell ya.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

My guy has one shytty playoff series (2016 finals) and he can't never live it down with yall lol. That was clearly an outlier series that isnt in the slightest a synopsis of how he performs in the 'offs.....and yall kno that. Yall hold him to an even higher standard than Lebron, whose had twice as many trash finals exhibitions, yet still gets paraded around like they didn't happen.
Tough jury I tell ya.

STOP

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

if bron is the standard shattering postseason #'s with barebones help compared to chef he has no excuse not to go crazy everytime

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Bron had more "help" in '15/'16 when Curry had arguably the greatest offensive season of the modern era. Go figure.

 

[010101]

Bron had more "help" in '15/'16 when Curry had arguably the greatest offensive season of the modern era. Go figure.

the cavs have never been a better team than gsw

the cavs rings came on the efforts of two individual talents

gsw's rings are more reflective of the generational accumulation of talent from the offices down to the court



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[Gil Scott-Heroin]

the cavs have never been a better team than gsw
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And that largely came down to Curry's ability, presence and impact, and how they harnessed that into the best offensive system in history with a league-average support cast. No other player has ever been able to shift entire defensive plates like be has - a black hole that pulls in every defender's attention and movements, everywhere in the halfcourt, like no other - that breaks the wall of conventional basketball wisdom because it goes directly against the principles of defense.

In visual form -



No other player comes remotely close to having this type of impact on their teammates' shooting percentages, and even this doesn't begin to quantify the # of open looks they benefit from getting -

the cavs rings came on the efforts of two individual talents
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LeBron had Kyrie, Love (two of the best offensive players at their respective positions) and a greater ensemble of 3-pt shooters. There's a reason why the Warriors have typically defended LeBron 1v1, and the Cavs have centered their entire defense around getting the ball out of Curry's hands, and forcing his teammates to beat them.

 

[010101]

And that largely came down to Curry's ability, presence and impact, and how they harnessed that into the best offensive system in history with a league-average support cast. No other player has ever been able to shift entire defensive plates like be has - a black hole that pulls in every defender's attention and movements, everywhere in the halfcourt, like no other - that breaks the wall of conventional basketball wisdom because it goes directly against the principles of defense.

In visual form -



No other player comes remotely close to having this type of impact on their teammates' shooting percentages, and even this doesn't begin to quantify the # of open looks they benefit from getting -

LeBron had Kyrie, Love (two of the best offensive players at their respective positions) and a greater ensemble of 3-pt shooters. There's a reason why the Warriors have typically defended LeBron 1v1, and the Cavs have centered their entire defense around getting the ball out of Curry's hands, and forcing his teammates to beat them.

all true

as long as klay is there to complete the splash.bros duo + the three other all.stars & the assortment of former all.stars & lotto picks that make up the secret.service pick&screen detail



chef was a less explosive dame.$ before all the upgrades



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[camer999]

My guy has one shytty playoff series (2016 finals) and he can't never live it down with yall lol. That was clearly an outlier series that isnt in the slightest a synopsis of how he performs in the 'offs.....and yall kno that. Yall hold him to an even higher standard than Lebron, whose had twice as many trash finals exhibitions, yet still gets paraded around like they didn't happen.
Tough jury I tell ya.

2011 and...?

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

2011 and...?

2007. I really dont understand why he gets let off the hook for that finals. Both games 3 and 4 were won by a combined 4 points.....that Spurs team was not an all timer by any stretch.

2014. Stats dont reflect just how ineffective he really was that series. Would do the boat load of his scoring in the first quarters and would get completely taken out the game by Kawhi for the remaining ones. Completely disappearing when the Spurs would go on runs.
Add on they lost in five games with a record margin, I dont understand why that shouldn't count against him either. Especially since there were pivotal moments in those games where he couldn't even get his shot off. Again, the stats dont reflect but if u review that series he had a very very mild performance. For his standards especially.
I didn't even get into how non existent he was on the other end of the floor.
That spurs team, too, has been , by revisionist history heralded an all timer when they are far from.

 

[camer999]

2007. I really dont understand why he gets let off the hook for that finals. Both games 3 and 4 were won by a combined 4 points.....that Spurs team was not an all timer by any stretch.

2014. Stats dont reflect just how ineffective he really was that series. Would do the boat load of his scoring in the first quarters and would get completely taken out the game by Kawhi for the remaining ones. Completely disappearing when the Spurs would go on runs.
Add on they lost in five games with a record margin, I dont understand why that shouldn't count against him either. Especially since there were pivotal moments in those games where he couldn't even get his shot off. Again, the stats dont reflect but if u review that series he had a very very mild performance. For his standards especially.
I didn't even get into how non existent he was on the other end of the floor.
That spurs team, too, has been , by revisionist history heralded an all timer when they are far from.

I pretty sure the 2014 were a monster squad with multiple records including beating teams by record margins. Also, in 2007 I’d argue they were that close those games BECAUSE he did everything possible. The teams just don’t stack up, especially with such a young Bron. Heat Bron maybe..

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

I pretty sure the 2014 were a monster squad with multiple records including beating teams by record margins. Also, in 2007 I’d argue they were that close those games BECAUSE he did everything possible. The teams just don’t stack up, especially with such a young Bron. Heat Bron maybe..

I respect your opinion we just disagree.
My original assertion was that he has twice as many shytty finals exhibitions as Steph, yet they get excused or ignored like they never happened.
He shot 35% for that series in 2007. By anyone's standards, that is trash.
Those games were close, yes because of him, but also because the Cavs were playing elite defense. My argument is, if Lebron performed to the level that he did the series prior, the series goes at minimum 6. But he didn't, he underperformed and they got SWEPT. Why does he get a pass for that? The series wasn't unattainable. Age be damned because A)If they were to pull it off, we would never hear the end of him pulling this off as essentially still a kid. You can't have it both ways. And B.) 2011 provided a fair assumption that regardless of age, the outcome and his performance alike, would have been the same.

2014 is the debatable, I'm not gonna try to change your mind on that.

But 2007 and 2011 aren't, imo. So semi objectively....

2/1=2 (twice).

Both getignored, or excused. Where was I wrong in my original assertion?

 

[camer999]

I respect your opinion we just disagree.
My original assertion was that he has twice as many shytty finals exhibitions as Steph, yet they get excused or ignored like they never happened.
He shot 35% for that series in 2007. By anyone's standards, that is trash.
Those games were close, yes because of him, but also because the Cavs were playing elite defense. My argument is, if Lebron performed to the level that he did the series prior, the series goes at minimum 6. But he didn't, he underperformed and they got SWEPT. Why does he get a pass for that? The series wasn't unattainable. Age be damned because A)If they were to pull it off, we would never hear the end of him pulling this off as essentially still a kid. You can't have it both ways. And B.) 2011 provided a fair assumption that regardless of age, the outcome and his performance alike, would have been the same.

2014 is the debatable, I'm not gonna try to change your mind on that.

But 2007 and 2011 aren't, imo. So semi objectively....

2/1=2 (twice).

Both getignored, or excused. Where was I wrong in my original assertion?

You make a good point on the 2007 year. 35% is God awful. That spurs team still had prime Timmy, Parker and ginobili though. It’s a lot of talent to overcome, but I see your point. Also to me you can have it both ways. Obviously just looking at the squads the spurs were HEAVILY favored so of course if he pulled it off he’d be the greatest thing since sliced bread and if he doesn’t it’s expected. Same logic with the warriors and them winning/losing.