How To Really Get On As A Producer (READ HERE)

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Find an artist/performer that is a GRINDER and likes to perform and then produce all their stuff and that first hit you produce starts cooking in the hood then the more established people will start hitting you up with money. Just how it is. Need someone that's going to be out and let people hear your music.

Examples: Young Chop with Chief Keef, Mike Will with Gucci Mane (established already) and Future, Lex Luger with Waka Flocka, Shawty Redd with Young Jeezy, DJ Mustard with YG, Boi1da with Drake, etc cause I know there are a few I am forgetting. A lot of dudes on here and on YouTube make better music than those cats but they were gifted with people that grind.

Something you have to realize as it pertains to Hip-Hop "Producers," most just make tracks and never sit in a studio with those guys, is there are very short shelf lives. Once the new cat with the cat behind the cat comes along then :camby: . It's the sad nature of hip-hop. Pharrell and Timbaland cannot buy a hit in hip-hop right now. shyt happens. :yeshrug: So, actually learn freaking music because once you're in the door then you can make Blurred Lines or whatever.

Gone are the days of apprenticeship like The Neptunes with Teddy Riley, Timbaland with DeVante Swing, Rodney Jerkins with Teddy Riley as well, David Foster with Quincy Jones and Maurice from Earth, Wind and Fire and whoever I missed. I guess we can say Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis coming from underneath Prince.

So to wrap it up, go out and find a grinding and marketable artist to work with then get heard wherever. That's what I am doing now with . Trust Jay-Z and Puffy started in hole-in-the-walls before getting on so you can too.
 
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Find an artist/performer that is a GRINDER and likes to perform and then produce all their stuff and that first hit you produce starts cooking in the hood then the more established people will start hitting you up with money. Just how it is. Need someone that's going to be out and let people hear your music.

Examples: Young Chop with Chief Keef, Mike Will with Juicy J (established already), Lex Luger with Waka Flocka, Shawty Redd with Young Jeezy, DJ Mustard with YG, Boi1da with Drake, etc cause I know there are a few I am forgetting. A lot of dudes on here and on YouTube make better music than those cats but they were gifted with people that grind.

Something you have to realize as it pertains to Hip-Hop "Producers," most just make tracks and never sit in a studio with those guys, is there are very short shelf lives. Once the new cat with the cat behind the cat comes along then :camby: . It's the sad nature of hip-hop. Pharrell and Timbaland cannot buy a hit in hip-hop right now. shyt happens. :yeshrug: So, actually learn freaking music because once you're in the door then you can make Blurred Lines or whatever.

Gone are the days of apprenticeship like The Neptunes with Teddy Riley, Timbaland with DeVante Swing, Rodney Jerkins with Teddy Riley as well, David Foster with Quincy Jones and Maurice from Earth, Wind and Fire and whoever I missed. I guess we can say Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis coming from underneath Prince.

So to wrap it up, go out and find a grinding and marketable artist to work with then get heard wherever. That's what I am doing now with . Trust Jay-Z and Puffy started in hole-in-the-walls before getting on so you can too.


Apprenticeships still exist, you just named a bunch of "button pusher/loop makers" who chase the fast dollars when their sound gets hot and then disappear the next summer. There is a lack of true producers today thats why there seems to be a lack of apprenticeships. Remember Kanye learned from Ddot & NoID. Scott Storch & Eminem came from under Dre. Danjahandz came from under Timbaland and plenty more.
 

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Apprenticeships still exist, you just named a bunch of "button pusher/loop makers" who chase the fast dollars when their sound gets hot and then disappear the next summer. There is a lack of true producers today thats why there seems to be a lack of apprenticeships. Remember Kanye learned from Ddot & NoID. Scott Storch & Eminem came from under Dre. Danjahandz came from under Timbaland and plenty more.
You're right and in essence we agree. There are a lack of true producers in Hip-Hop but the producer is still necessary in other genres.
 

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You're right and in essence we agree. There are a lack of true producers in Hip-Hop but the producer is still necessary in other genres.

the producer is necessary in all areas of music. Its just that in terms of the business side of the things, hip-hop producers (and artist) are quicker to sell their soul for very little return and no advancement in the culture. Its not all the producers fault though because hip-hop is a tricky/flaky genre where the middle ground between being a 'nobody' and being 'on' is usually the peak of every artists approval rating in the genre.
 

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the producer is necessary in all areas of music. Its just that in terms of the business side of the things, hip-hop producers (and artist) are quicker to sell their soul for very little return and no advancement in the culture. Its not all the producers fault though because hip-hop is a tricky/flaky genre where the middle ground between being a 'nobody' and being 'on' is usually the peak of every artists approval rating in the genre.
You're right, I meant prevalent.
 

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the producer is necessary in all areas of music. Its just that in terms of the business side of the things, hip-hop producers (and artist) are quicker to sell their soul for very little return and no advancement in the culture. Its not all the producers fault though because hip-hop is a tricky/flaky genre where the middle ground between being a 'nobody' and being 'on' is usually the peak of every artists approval rating in the genre.
Spot on in the bold thus me not even trying to produce hip-hop/rap anymore. I mean I may make a track every now and then but ultimately I am good off that. What is so sad about the FL Studio stars is once they're in the industry they are not diverse in a music sense. They think that wave rides forever but crashes quickly. Once I am in, then I am gone to rock, pop and film scores...Straight up.
 

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Spot on in the bold thus me not even trying to produce hip-hop/rap anymore. I mean I may make a track every now and then but ultimately I am good off that. What is so sad about the FL Studio stars is once they're in the industry they are not diverse in a music sense. They think that wave rides forever but crashes quickly. Once I am in, then I am gone to rock, pop and film scores...Straight up.

the key is doing that now.
 

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the key is doing that now.
Click that link in my signature then you know wassup. The key is getting in the door. I just won't sacrifice my musical integrity to do so.
 

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Click that link in my signature then you know wassup. The key is getting in the door. I just won't sacrifice my musical integrity to do so.

in the internet age there is no such thing as "getting in the door". Hop on Twitter, strategically network and undercut everyones prices and you will be on top tomorrow.
 
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