How to Reduce Shootings (NY Times Article)

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I was going to post this in the Uvalde shooting thread in TLR at first, but since the article is so long I decided it should go here instead.

How to Reduce Shootings​


America has been shaken — once again — by mass shootings. On May 14, a gunman killed 10 people in a supermarket in Buffalo. On Tuesday, at least 19 children and two adults were killed in Uvalde, Texas. It was the deadliest shooting at an elementary school since the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary.

This essay originally ran in 2017, after a shooter killed 26 people in a Texas church. But the issue is still tragically relevant, and will remain so until America tightens its gun safety policies.

America has more guns than any other country​

The first step is to understand the scale of the challenge America faces: The U.S. has more than 300 million guns — roughly one for every citizen — and stands out as well for its gun death rates. At the other extreme, Japan has less than one gun per 100 people, and typically fewer than 10 gun deaths a year in the entire country.

Guns per 100 people
Among developed countries, the United States has by far the highest rate of firearms ownership.
120.5
UNITED STATES
34.7
CANADA
27.6
SWITZERLAND
23.1
SWEDEN
19.6
FRANCE
19.6
GERMANY
14.5
AUSTRALIA
14.4
ITALY
7.5
SPAIN
4.6
ENGLAND, WALES
0.3
JAPAN
Gun murders per 100,000 people
America’s private arsenal is five times as lethal as Canada’s, and 30 times worse than Australia’s.
3.4
UNITED STATES
0.6
CANADA
0.4
FRANCE
0.4
SWEDEN
0.3
ITALY
0.2
SWITZERLAND
0.1
AUSTRALIA
0.1
GERMANY
0.1
SPAIN
0
ENGLAND, WALES
0
JAPAN
Sources: Small Arms Survey, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.·Ownership rates are for 2017. Murder rates for the U.S., Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Australia and Spain are from 2016; otherwise, the latest available rates are used.

We have a model for regulating guns: automobiles​

Gun enthusiasts often protest: Cars kill about as many people as guns, and we don’t ban them! No, but automobiles are actually a model for the public health approach I’m suggesting.

We don’t ban cars, but we work hard to regulate them — and limit access to them — so as to reduce the death toll they cause. This has been spectacularly successful, reducing the death rate per 100 million miles driven to less than one-seventh of what it was in 1946.

The liberal approach is ineffective.
Use a public health approach instead.​

Frankly, liberal opposition to guns has often been ineffective, and sometimes counterproductive. The 10-year ban on assault weapons accomplished little, partly because definitions were about cosmetic features like bayonet mounts (and partly because even before the ban, such guns were used in only 2 percent of crimes).

The left sometimes focuses on “gun control,” which scares off gun owners and leads to more gun sales. A better framing is “gun safety” or “reducing gun violence,” and using auto safety as a model—constant efforts to make the products safer and to limit access by people who are most likely to misuse them.

What would a public health approach look like for guns if it were modeled after cars? It would include:

Background checks
22 percent of guns are obtained without one.

Protection orders
Keep men who are subject to domestic violence protection orders from having guns.

Ban under-21s
A ban on people under 21 purchasing firearms (this is already the case in many states).

Safe storage
These include trigger locks as well as guns and ammunition stored separately, especially when children are in the house.

Straw purchases
Tighter enforcement of laws on straw purchases of weapons, and some limits on how many guns can be purchased in a month.

Ammunition checks
Experimentation with a one-time background check for anybody buying ammunition.

End immunity
End immunity for firearm companies. That’s a subsidy to a particular industry.

Ban bump stocks
A ban on bump stocks of the kind used in Las Vegas to mimic automatic weapon fire.

Research ‘smart guns’
“Smart guns” fire only after a fingerprint or PIN is entered, or if used near a particular bracelet.

If someone steals my iPhone, it’s useless, and the same should be true of guns. Gun manufacturers made child-proof guns back in the 19th century (before dropping them), and it’s time to advance that technology today. Some combination of smart guns and safe storage would also reduce the number of firearms stolen in the U.S. each year, now about 200,000, and available to criminals.

We also need to figure out whether gun buybacks, often conducted by police departments, are cost-effective and help reduce violence. And we can experiment more with anti-gang initiatives, such as Cure Violence, that have a good record in reducing shootings.

Fewer guns = fewer deaths​

It is true that guns are occasionally used to stop violence. But contrary to what the National Rifle Association suggests, this is rare. One study by the Violence Policy Center found that in 2012 there were 259 justifiable homicides by a private citizen using a firearm.

Lax laws too often make it easy not only for good guys to get guns, but also for bad guys to get guns. The evidence is overwhelming that overall more guns and more relaxed gun laws lead to more violent deaths and injuries. One study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine found that a gun in the house was associated with an increased risk of a gun death, particularly by suicide but also apparently by homicide.

In 2015, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas tweeted that he was “embarrassed” that his state was ranked second (behind California) in requests to buy new guns, albeit still with one million requests. “Let’s pick up the pace Texans,” he wrote.

Abbott apparently believes, along with the N.R.A., that more guns make a society more safe, but statistics dispute that. Abbott should look at those charts.

Mass shootings are not the main cause of loss of life​

Critics will say that the kind of measures I cite wouldn’t prevent many shootings. The 2017 shooting in Las Vegas, for example, might not have been prevented by any of the suggestions I make.

That’s true, and there’s no magic wand available. Yet remember that although it is mass shootings that get our attention, they are not the main cause of loss of life. Much more typical is a friend who shoots another, a husband who kills his wife — or, most common of all, a man who kills himself. Skeptics will say that if people want to kill themselves, there’s nothing we can do. In fact, it turns out that if you make suicide a bit more difficult, suicide rates drop.

Here are the figures showing that mass shootings are a modest share of the total, and the same is true of self-defense — despite what the N.R.A. might have you believe.

Tightening gun laws lowered firearm homicide rates​

For skeptics who think that gun laws don’t make a difference, consider what happened in two states, Missouri and Connecticut. In 1995, Connecticut tightened licensing laws, while in 2007 Missouri eased gun laws.

The upshot? After tightening gun laws, firearm homicide rates dropped 40 percent in Connecticut. And after Missouri eased gun laws, gun homicide rates rose 25 percent.
 

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One of the lessons of gun research is that we often focus just on firearms themselves, when it may be more productive to focus on who gets access to them. A car or gun is usually safe in the hands of a 45-year-old woman with no criminal record, but may be dangerous when used by a 19-year-old felon with a history of alcohol offenses or domestic violence protection orders.

Yet our laws have often focused more on weapons themselves (such as the assault weapons ban) rather than on access. In many places, there is more rigorous screening of people who want to adopt dogs than of people who want to purchase firearms.

In these two states, the laws affected access, and although there’s some indication that other factors were also involved in Connecticut (and correlations don’t prove causation), the outcomes are worth pondering.

There is a shocking lack of research on guns​

There’s simply a scandalous lack of research on gun violence, largely because the N.R.A. is extremely hostile to such research and Congress rolls over. When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did try to research gun violence, Congress responded by cutting its funding.

Here is the American toll from four diseases and firearms over the years 1973-2012 — and the number of National Institutes of Health research grants to explore each problem over that same time.

The right type of training could go a long way​

One approach that could reduce the abuse of guns is better training. As a 13-year-old farm boy in Oregon, I attended a N.R.A. gun safety class (which came with a one-year membership to the N.R.A., making me an N.R.A. alum who despises what that organization has become). These classes can be very useful, and audits found that more than 80 percent cover such matters as checking the gun to see if it’s loaded, keeping one’s finger off the trigger until ready to fire and being certain of the target.

Yet the audits also suggest that trainers are more likely to advocate for the N.R.A. or for carrying guns than for, say, safe storage. This is a missed opportunity, for all classes should cover the risks of guns and alcohol, the risks of abuse with suicide and domestic violence, the need for safe storage, and so on. Here’s what researchers found that the gun classes they audited between 2014 and 2016 actually covered:

This is the blunt, damning truth: The latest shooting was 100 percent predictable.

After each such incident, we mourn the deaths and sympathize with the victims, but we do nothing fundamental to reduce our vulnerability.

Some of you will protest that the immediate aftermath of a shooting is too soon to talk about guns, or that it is disrespectful to the dead to use such a tragedy to score political points. Yet more Americans have died from gun violence, including suicides, since 1970 (about 1.4 million) than in all the wars in American history going back to the Revolutionary War (about 1.3 million). And it’s not just gang-members: In a typical year, more pre-schoolers are shot dead in America (about 75) than police officers are.

Yes, making America safer will be hard: There are no perfect solutions. The Second Amendment is one constraint, and so is our polarized political system and the power of the gun lobby. It’s unclear how effective some of my suggestions will be, and in any case this will be a long, uncertain, uphill process.

But automobiles are a reminder that we can chip away at a large problem through a public health approach: Just as auto safety improvements have left us far better off, it seems plausible to some gun policy experts that a sensible, politically feasible set of public health steps could over time reduce firearm deaths in America by one-third — or more than 10,000 lives saved each year.

So let’s not just shed tears for the dead, give somber speeches and lower flags. Let’s get started and save lives.


I couldn't post most of the charts
 

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The article is solid overall but I think these are the most important:



Background checks
22 percent of guns are obtained without one.


Ban under-21s
A ban on people under 21 purchasing firearms (this is already the case in many states).



Straw purchases
Tighter enforcement of laws on straw purchases of weapons, and some limits on how many guns can be purchased in a month.


You look at guns used illegally, and a ton of them were by people who didn't get a background check, used straw purchases to get a gun, or were under 21 and were reckless but didn't have a record yet. Make those three rules and a lot fewer people get guns who shouldn't have them.



I'd add two more:

* Include references in the background check. Some places already do this and it makes a ton of difference. There are people getting guns whose friends and family all know that them having a gun would be a huge warning sign. And most people wouldn't want to be the one who signs off on them getting a gun. Just the fact that they are asking for a background check can be a warning sign that their friends/family needed to get them help or warn the police. And there's a lot of people plotting who would stop right there because they don't want anyone else to know.

* Waiting periods for all guns. Waiting periods allow a cooldown that makes impulsive suicides and crimes of passion less likely. They also create the necessary time to allow the full background check to take place and give the references time to actually think about why this person is getting a gun and do something about it.
 

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You want to reduce mass shootings then ban assault weapons for public consumption outright.. Make it they are only to be made for military and law enforcement use only… the existing assault weapons in the public domain make them illegal and trace all of them back to the owners and have the ATF go collect them.. Mass shootings will go down immediately
 

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i really don't understand how hard it is to 1) raise the age you can buy guns, we've done it with cigarettes and alcohol 2) implement background checks & waiting periods 3) ban the sale of military grade automatic weapons to civilians

none of this is taking away the right to gun ownership nor limiting the number of guns you can have, this shyt is literally the basics
 

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The article is solid overall but I think these are the most important:






You look at guns used illegally, and a ton of them were by people who didn't get a background check, used straw purchases to get a gun, or were under 21 and were reckless but didn't have a record yet. Make those three rules and a lot fewer people get guns who shouldn't have them.



I'd add two more:

* Include references in the background check. Some places already do this and it makes a ton of difference. There are people getting guns whose friends and family all know that them having a gun would be a huge warning sign. And most people wouldn't want to be the one who signs off on them getting a gun. Just the fact that they are asking for a background check can be a warning sign that their friends/family needed to get them help or warn the police. And there's a lot of people plotting who would stop right there because they don't want anyone else to know.

* Waiting periods for all guns. Waiting periods allow a cooldown that makes impulsive suicides and crimes of passion less likely. They also create the necessary time to allow the full background check to take place and give the references time to actually think about why this person is getting a gun and do something about it.
Going towards more people orientated laws instead of just laws about the guns themselves will definitely go a long way.
 

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theres measures to be taken, but gun violence is a sunk cost of living in america

they need a 21 limit, and more background checks. its not like these fukkin pussies who shoot up schools have the balls or connections to get illegal guns
 

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Ammunition checks
Experimentation with a one-time background check for anybody buying ammunition.

End immunity
End immunity for firearm companies. That’s a subsidy to a particular industry.

i like these two.


Research ‘smart guns’
“Smart guns” fire only after a fingerprint or PIN is entered, or if used near a particular bracelet.

i don't like this one. if my phone doesn't read my fingerprint properly the first time it's no big deal.
 
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