How was Biggie able to pass Rakim, Kane, G Rap as the KONY with a limited catalog.

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Big was nice but when he was alive I don't recall him getting as much praises as he does since he died. More rappers emulated Pac's style and approach not Big. But I still don't see how Big's legacy in New York is greater than the names mentioned in the title. To me in order to be considered the King you have to get that title over time. Pac got at him with Hit Em Up and he didn't do nothing. If Pac wouldn't have passed who knows how that situation would've turned out.
 

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Big was nice but when he was alive I don't recall him getting as much praises as he does since he died. More rappers emulated Pac's style and approach not Big. But I still don't see how Big's legacy in New York is greater than the names mentioned in the title. To me in order to be considered the King you have to get that title over time. Pac got at him with Hit Em Up and he didn't do nothing. If Pac wouldn't have passed who knows how that situation would've turned out.
How old were you in 94-97?
 

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What rappers are emulating Pac? Biggie is the most lyrically bitten rapper ever. Hit Em Up was a weak ass diss, the beat was ass and the nikkaz dissed Mobb Deep for no reason making fun of P because he had sickle cell, Big because he was fat and the nikka called Lil Kim ugly, and he sent a bunch of empty death threats :comeon:

Big wasnt about beef. Rae, Ghost, Jeru all dissed him. Real talk Big had more praise than Pac while alive, Ready to Die was a bomb. You mentioned Ra, G Rap in the title, Big was just more appealing those guys were at the tail end by 94. Big is the king because he brought back hip hop to NY commercially. Ready to Die went 4x plat and had several hit singles.
 

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Cause he died...not to mentioned in e height of his popularity he brought the east coast back to mainstream relevance

Ready to Die wasn't mainstream and the height of his popularity on a national level was during the height of the east vs. west 2pac beef. Furthermore, it wasn't about "mainstream" relavance. Death Row basically had a dope run with the chronic and doggy style. Wu Tang, Nas, ATCQ a lot of dope hip hop was being put out. Big made one album. That's the biggest misconseption of that era. that whole big vs. pac death row vs. bad boy east vs. west, it made everyone involved bigger than what they really were. Pac even admitted he fanned the flames to sell records and in th end he immortalized himself and big.
 

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How old were you in 94-97?

I was in high school. Class of 96. I know my shyt. Ready to Die was dope but there was a lot of dope music coming out from 92 - 96. Illmatic hands down was praised more. Mobb Deep's Infamous got way more burn than Ready To Die. The ONLY thing that made Ready to Die more popular was those Puffy induced samples. When I first heard Biggie it was the Juicy video and honestly this nikka talking about he made it and he got all this shyt and i was thinking "nikka who is you" I don't even think the album dropped yet. nikka was frontin. The album was dope though. but those commerical songs is what made it more popular than what it really was.
 

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Ready to Die wasn't mainstream and the height of his popularity on a national level was during the height of the east vs. west 2pac beef. Furthermore, it wasn't about "mainstream" relavance. Death Row basically had a dope run with the chronic and doggy style. Wu Tang, Nas, ATCQ a lot of dope hip hop was being put out. Big made one album. That's the biggest misconseption of that era. that whole big vs. pac death row vs. bad boy east vs. west, it made everyone involved bigger than what they really were. Pac even admitted he fanned the flames to sell records and in th end he immortalized himself and big.

RTD was mainstream dude. You don't go platinum and not become mainstream, especially back then when going platinum was a big deal.
 

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RTD was mainstream dude. You don't go platinum and not become mainstream, especially back then when going platinum was a big deal.

Hip Hop in general wasn't mainstream in the mid 90's. And that album went platinum because of the Juicy fruit sample and between the sheets sample. It got enough spins.

Basically you're saying he was king because he had a few cross over hits. He also had the bad boy logo behind him and puff's marketing and promotion. Back then none of that shyt matter to me and people I knew. it was all about the music and to me it was just another dope record in a stack of others. nothing more nothing less. Illmatic had more hype and buzz and expectations and it delivered. But i'm still curious as to why all the 80's rappers who were considered legends to get pushed to the side so swiftly. I never though Big was better than Kane as an MC. A lot of Big's freestyles were prewrittens. He was an average freestyler. Puff basically molded his image and overall style. Yeah I'm gonna get heat for saying it but it is what it is.
 

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WTF is your definition of mainstream? :dahell:

And on what planet was rap not big in the 90's? :what:

Biggie was The King of NY because he was the biggest artist from New York. He commanded respect from every notable artist there. You had Nas switching up his style and had Jay Z under his wing.
 
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