How Was Japan Able to Create an Over As fukk Heel/Anti-Hero When WWE Hasn't Done So In 10+ Years?

[Drones]

Tetsuya Naito is one of the most over dudes in New Japan, his clique has the hottest merch in the company, and he's done it as a swaggering a$$hole. WWE used to be great at creating guys like this: heels that got so over that they became de facto faces, but unless you count Phil in the mid-2000s they haven't done it since the Attitude Era.

It's evident that they want (or perhaps wanted) Rollins to be that guy, but he's not nearly there yet thanks to some questionable booking and their refusal to de-push Reigns. So what exactly has NJPW bottled with Naito that continues to elude Vince and the E?

At WK11 when I watched Naito flick the IC IWGP belt into the ring like it was a blunt roach, it instantly grabbed me and made me wonder who the hell he was. It was awesome but frankly it made me miss the days when I saw WWE wrestlers able to get over in the same assholish, you're-not-supposed-to-like-me-but-you-can't-help-it way.

 

[Silkk]

"Wins & Losses don't matter"

You'd never hear NJPW people say that stupid shyt

 

[23Barrettcity]

Tetsuya Naito is one of the most over dudes in New Japan, his clique has the hottest merch in the company, and he's done it as a swaggering a$$hole. WWE used to be great at creating guys like this: heels that got so over that they became de facto faces, but unless you count Phil in the mid-2000s they haven't done it since the Attitude Era.

It's evident that they want (or perhaps wanted) Rollins to be that guy, but he's not nearly there yet thanks to some questionable booking and their refusal to de-push Reigns. So what exactly has NJPW bottled with Naito that continues to elude Vince and the E?

At WK11 when I watched Naito flick the IC IWGP belt into the ring like it was a blunt roach, it instantly grabbed me and made me wonder who the hell he was. It was awesome but frankly it made me miss the days when I saw WWE wrestlers able to get over in the same assholish, you're-not-supposed-to-like-me-but-you-can't-help-it way.

I love naito but The shield ? Bray Wyatt ? And also what about the portion of his career when people thought his character sucked ?

 

[HYDRO]

You could say they did it with New Day, the Shield and to an extent, the Wyatts

There's so many DX/New Day comparisons

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Naito is dedicated to the role, he does everything to not be liked and to come off disrespectful to NJPW staff.

He doesn't have the mindset of "as long as they're reacting"

Plus WWE feels the need to use scripts no matter how bad it makes the wrestlers look.

 

[Silkk]

I love naito but The shield ? Bray Wyatt ? And also what about the portion of his career when people thought his character sucked ?

This nikka Stan said Bray Wyatt:lolshaq:

 

[Silkk]

You could say they did it with New Day, the Shield and to an extent, the Wyatts

There's so many DX/New Day comparisons

From who?

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

This nikka Stan said Bray Wyatt:lolshaq:

So Bray Wyatt was never over as a heel

 

[HYDRO]

From who?

From my own perspective

I'm saying they're both three men teams
Who started as heels
Pushed to becoming faces
Because of their popularity
Which they built
With their immature and youthful humor
Unicorn headbands = DX BBQ hotdogs



Big E titties = Chynas titties

 

[HYDRO]

So Bray Wyatt was never over as a heel

Right
Dude had the hottest promos
And literally has fans lighting up whenever he walks out

TSC be delusional with hatery

 

[Silkk]

So Bray Wyatt was never over as a heel

The difference between Naito and Bray Wyatt(and 90% of WWE wrestlers) is this.

If NJPW announced Naito vs Okada for the title at their next show, Naito is a believable challenger and people will legit have no idea who who will win and will tune in to see that.


If WWE announced Bray vs Roman/Cena/Undertaker at their next show, Nobody would give a fukk because we know he's not on their level. Full of shyt if you say otherwise.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

The difference between Naito and Bray Wyatt(and 90% of WWE wrestlers) is this.

If NJPW announced Naito vs Okada for the title at their next show, Naito is a believable challenger and people will legit have no idea who who will win and will tune in to see that.


If WWE announced Bray vs Roman/Cena/Undertaker at their next show, Nobody would give a fukk because we know he's not on their level. Full of shyt if you say otherwise.

Ok thats fine but that wasn't what was being asked

 

[Silkk]

Ok thats fine but that wasn't what was being asked

I'd say he was over before Cena got to him. Same with Rusev, Ryback, Umaga, etc.

These last 3 years just been a bunch of talk from him that he never backs up. He's a front running bytch.

And that's the problem. What's his biggest/most memorable win since DB at the Royal Rumble?

 

[Silkk]

From my own perspective

I'm saying they're both three men teams
Who started as heels
Pushed to becoming faces
Because of their popularity
Which they built
With their immature and youthful humor
Unicorn headbands = DX BBQ hotdogs



Big E titties = Chynas titties

Except for the fact that the new day is never taken seriously.

If you're comparing them to the late 00s goofy DX, I can see that

 

[HYDRO]

Except for the fact that the new day is never taken seriously.

If you're comparing them to the late 00s goofy DX, I can see that

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