How/why is parenting instinctive in virtually all walks of life?

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

The act of caring for your offspring until it can care for itself is seen in every mammal, bird, schools of fish, reptile, etc. Insects might behave in this manner as well.

It is a unique instinct....i suppose part of the drive to replicate our dna and progress our lineage, but it is not conscious...right?

And as a seperate question...do any species outside humans spurn this instictive drive because of their own desires? Abandoning offspring or worse?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

part of the drive to replicate our dna and progress our lineage, but it is not conscious...right?

IT CAN BE A CONSCIOUS ACTION IN THE SPECIES CAPABLE OF CONSCIOUS THOUGHT, BROTHER! HUMANS, CHIMPS, DOLPHINS, DUDE!

do any species outside humans spurn this instictive drive because of their own desires? Abandoning offspring or worse?

THIS DOES HAPPEN, SADLY, DUDE!

 

[Earnings]

IT CAN BE A CONSCIOUS ACTION IN THE SPECIES CAPABLE OF CONSCIOUS THOUGHT, BROTHER! HUMANS, CHIMPS, DOLPHINS, DUDE!


THIS DOES HAPPEN, SADLY, DUDE!

Lmfao this dude delivers every trip

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

IT CAN BE A CONSCIOUS ACTION IN THE SPECIES CAPABLE OF CONSCIOUS THOUGHT, BROTHER! HUMANS, CHIMPS, DOLPHINS, DUDE!


THIS DOES HAPPEN, SADLY, DUDE!

But arent most animals aware of what they are doing? Or are you referring to elevated awareness, or even more so choice?

The choice to ignore instinct is the determinant i imagine

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Lmfao this dude delivers every trip

KARL MALONE GAVE ME HIS MAILMAN GIMMICK, BROTHER!

But arent most animals aware of what they are doing? Or are you referring to elevated awareness, or even more so choice?

The choice to ignore instinct is the determinant i imagine

IT'S A FASCINATING SUBJECT, DUDE!

 

[Bud Bundy]

spiders don't take care of there young.

matter of fact if they don't run away the mother usually eats her young.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

spiders don't take care of there young.

matter of fact if they don't run away the mother usually eats her young.

I mentioned maybe regarding insects for reasons like that....they are a different conversation all together.

 

[the mechanic]

Im not sure you can study this instinct in todays humans because we are "domesticated" like farm animals so to figure this out you may have to find a group of "wild" humans deep in some jungle somewhere to make that observation...they would be as close to instinctive as possible.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The act of caring for your offspring until it can care for itself is seen in every mammal, bird, schools of fish, reptile, etc. Insects might behave in this manner as well.

It is a unique instinct....i suppose part of the drive to replicate our dna and progress our lineage, but it is not conscious...right?

And as a seperate question...do any species outside humans spurn this instictive drive because of their own desires? Abandoning offspring or worse?

Actually no. The nurturing of young is only present strongly in animals with k-type reproductive strategies.. mostly mammals, birds, reptiles, etc. K-type meaning they have long gestation periods, produce few offspring with high survivability rates and invest a lot of time and care of them.

The other type of reproductive strategy is r-type, which fish and all invertebrates use. R-type is basically having short gestation periods, producing a ton of offspring with low survivability rates and invest little to no care in them.

Generally speaking, organisms that are larger and have more complex physiology tend to be k-type reproducers and ones that are smaller and have simpler physiologies tend to be r-type.

You getting your chick pregnant, her producing only a few kids, taking 9 months each time, yall feeding, clothing, teaching, and paying for them for 18 years=k-type

A scorpion spitting out 100 babies and letting them ride her back for a few days and rejecting them or even eating them if they fall off=r-type.

But there's many organisms that put in less work than a scorpion and literally do nothing for their offspring. Like many marine animals, oysters or whatever just release them in the water and that's it.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Actually no. The nurturing of young is only present strongly in animals with k-type reproductive strategies.. mostly mammals, birds, reptiles, etc. K-type meaning they have long gestation periods, produce few offspring with high survivability rates and invest a lot of time and care of them.

The other type of reproductive strategy is r-type, which fish and all invertebrates use. R-type is basically having short gestation periods, producing a ton of offspring with low survivability rates and invest little to no care in them.

Generally speaking, organisms that are larger and have more complex physiology tend to be k-type reproducers and ones that are smaller and have simpler physiologies tend to be r-type.

You getting your chick pregnant, her producing only a few kids, taking 9 months each time, yall feeding, clothing, teaching, and paying for them for 18 years=k-type

A scorpion spitting out 100 babies and letting them ride her back for a few days and rejecting them or even eating them if they fall off=r-type.

But there's many organisms that put in less work than a scorpion and literally do nothing for their offspring. Like many marine animals, oysters or whatever just release them in the water and that's it.

Good divide...and great info. Earth science was a while ago for me now. Sticking with K-types...what is the purpose of this instinct...? To care for offspring...is it a function of our general desire and instinct to reproduce? A baseline survival instinct? Why is it written in our code to care? And as hogan mentioned...why can some (ktypes for this example) reject it?


Instincts are in general an amazing thing to me.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Good divide...and great info. Earth science was a while ago for me now. Sticking with K-types...what is the purpose of this instinct...? To care for offspring...is it a function of our general desire and instinct to reproduce? A baseline survival instinct? Why is it written in our code to care? And as hogan mentioned...why can some (ktypes for this example) reject it?


Instincts are in general an amazing thing to me.

I think K-type reproduction is just a consequence of the increased physiological complexity that developed over millions of years of evolution in larger animals, more complex animals. It takes more parental investment in terms of time and energy for a horse to produce viable offspring than a mosquito.

Any instinct is just a result of innate biological triggers, yes. So a mammal nurturing their offspring is just instinctual behavior programmed in their DNA in the same manner baby turtles know to swim to the ocean upon hatching. I'd say it's written in via natural selection because the genes want nothing than to propagate themselves. If parental investment is a strategy that helps leave behind viable offspring so the genes can be passed on, it will happen.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I think K-type reproduction is just a consequence of the increased physiological complexity that developed over millions of years of evolution in larger animals, more complex animals. It takes more parental investment in terms of time and energy for a horse to produce viable offspring than a mosquito.

Any instinct is just a result of innate biological triggers, yes. So a mammal nurturing their offspring is just instinctual behavior programmed in their DNA in the same manner baby turtles know to swim to the ocean upon hatching. I'd say it's written in via natural selection because the genes want nothing than to propagate themselves. If parental investment is a strategy that helps leave behind viable offspring so the genes can be passed on, it will happen.

I hope more contribute today. Earth science is awesome to me.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

I had a guinea pig that murdered his 1st offspring. The second go round the mother had him trembling for his life in the corner... Protecting the kids

 

[NZA]

Im not sure you can study this instinct in todays humans because we are "domesticated" like farm animals so to figure this out you may have to find a group of "wild" humans deep in some jungle somewhere to make that observation...they would be as close to instinctive as possible.

i would think that everything humans do is natural to us. nobody looks at a bee living in a hive and says that it is domesticated, it is just doing what bees do.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

i would think that everything humans do is natural to us. nobody looks at a bee living in a hive and says that it is domesticated, it is just doing what bees do.

If you were looking from space, is the morning commute on I-5 radically different from schools of fish traveling, bees flying to get nectar in a (literal) bee line, or even more, an army of ants traveling together?

Packs of wildabest eating n a savana = office buildings or cafaterias....if you take context out its the same