"I am a marxist"-the Dalai Lama

[JahFocus CS]

You work off ideals and not the human translation. A small group of men will always be above the law because they make the law. When the working class and means of production are basically owned by a cabal of goons who are owned by a.small group of men you get what I'm talking about.

Marxism can't take away human beings desire to set rules for other people while they live a life of true freedom. It's just another vehicle to organize sheep.

There's nothing that says the society we live under today, and the social structures we have, are natural, inevitable, or anything of the sort. Especially given that, for the vast majority of human existence, societies looked much different - shyt going on today would look absolutely alien. Even in today's world, different models abound.

I'm not working off of ideals, but rather an analysis of how society is structured and what it would take to meaningfully change it. If you want to say that it is impractical to organize large groups of people to act in their self-interest, you can do that, but historical examples abound which suggest that isn't the case. It may be difficult to organize people, but that's the only way anything gets done.

Under capitalism, there are people above the law because a) the state serves the bourgeoisie and serves to suppress the working-class, and b) the division of labor narrows people's purview and limits them to small slivers of the human experience. Most people have no real say in their lives and what happens. If the working-class seizes power and reorganizes society, people can fully participate in human life and instead of "representatives" along parliamentary or congressional lines in which people are elected to lord over others for x years and vote according to what they want, their electors be damned, there would actually be representatives from the workplace level up who make known the wishes of the people they're representing. Instantly recallable... no "cabal of goons" here. And with the internet and instant forms of communication, etc., consider the possibilities that are opened up for mass participation in governance.

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

Karl Marx was a Jew and a racist, so the Dalai Lama is a white supremacist.

 

[Mowgli]

There's nothing that says the society we live under today, and the social structures we have, are natural, inevitable, or anything of the sort. Especially given that, for the vast majority of human existence, societies looked much different - shyt going on today would look absolutely alien. Even in today's world, different models abound.

I'm not working off of ideals, but rather an analysis of how society is structured and what it would take to meaningfully change it. If you want to say that it is impractical to organize large groups of people to act in their self-interest, you can do that, but historical examples abound which suggest that isn't the case. It may be difficult to organize people, but that's the only way anything gets done.

Under capitalism, there are people above the law because a) the state serves the bourgeoisie and serves to suppress the working-class, and b) the division of labor narrows people's purview and limits them to small slivers of the human experience. Most people have no real say in their lives and what happens. If the working-class seizes power and reorganizes society, people can fully participate in human life and instead of "representatives" along parliamentary or congressional lines in which people are elected to lord over others for x years and vote according to what they want, their electors be damned, there would actually be representatives from the workplace level up who make known the wishes of the people they're representing. Instantly recallable... no "cabal of goons" here. And with the internet and instant forms of communication, etc., consider the possibilities that are opened up for mass participation in governance.

What nation is marxism working best for and would you live there

 

[CHL]

I always knew there was something I disliked there more than religion...

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[JahFocus CS]

What nation is marxism working best for and would you live there

There are no countries in which the working-class is in power, and "socialism in one country" isn't even a thing. Socialism has to be worldwide because capitalism is a world system, and the working-class is a global class...

There are some countries where the working-class is stronger than in others, and have won more concessions from the bourgeoisie and have more rights. I would live in some of these countries.