I blame muslims for not doing enough to denouce groups like Hamas and ISIS

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

People still automatically equate Islam with terrorism. Most muslims practice islam the right way. All of these fanatical/terrorist groups are a$$holes that use religion as an excuse. And because its not shunned or denounced by the majority of the muslim world other people think its ok to form new cells. Muslims need to be out in the battle field educating people and exposing groups like ISIS and al qeda for what they are. Religion has nothing to do with their actions. They have allowed a few to integrate their bullshyt into islam to the point where a muslim had to take a flag down in front of his house that he's been hanging for years because ISIS uses the same one. It translates “There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah”

There needs to be a fatwa by the majority against these pussies like the Taliban, ISIS, and other criminal organizations.

 

[88m3]

The first sentence I wold imagine to be categorically false. So you're saying there is a wrong way to practice Islam? I'm not sure if a justification is an excuse. Not denouncing extremism personally I would perceive as support...
Education doesn't seem to be strong suit in the Muslim countries or the community at large. Jihadis feel otherwise. I'm not sure if your few argument holds water due to the impact and scale (you've actually alluded to it a few times),hmm.
Arabic is a pretty language. Was it a green flag or a black flag? I've heard one of them has a more negative connotation.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

The first sentence I wold imagine to be categorically false. So you're saying there is a wrong way to practice Islam? I'm not sure if a justification is an excuse. Not denouncing extremism personally I would perceive as support...
Education doesn't seem to be strong suit in the Muslim countries or the community at large. Jihadis feel otherwise. I'm not sure if your few argument holds water due to the impact and scale (you've actually alluded to it a few times),hmm.
Arabic is a pretty language. Was it a green flag or a black flag? I've heard one of them has a more negative connotation.

These criminal organizations (that's what they are, fukk calling them religious extremists), take advantage of poor people. You don't see that shyt in Saudi Arabia or Dubai or Bahrain. You always see it in countries with high poverty and a countries with destabilized governments like Syria and Iraq. Just like African rebels brainwash or force people to join them, these groups do the same thing. Muslim abroad are more about isolationism and that shyt just don't fly. Non Muslims are ignorant to basic concepts of Islam and in this day and age it shouldn't be that way. Muslim should not by synonymous with terrorist but it is.

 

[88m3]

These criminal organizations (that's what they are, fukk calling them religious extremists), take advantage of poor people. You don't see that shyt in Saudi Arabia or Dubai or Bahrain. You always see it in countries with high poverty and a countries with destabilized governments like Syria and Iraq. Just like African rebels brainwash or force people to join them, these groups do the same thing. Muslim abroad are more about isolationism and that shyt just don't fly. Non Muslims are ignorant to basic concepts of Islam and in this day and age it shouldn't be that way. Muslim should not by synonymous with terrorist but it is.

I'm not sure if the bank would let me deposit these logical fallacies but I'll try taking them there. Honestly, I appreciate the effort.

You don't have to convince me, (I know Muslims aren't evil or terrorists or whatever) but I wish your arguments were better.

 

[Ashtrey]

well peshmerga tryin to do something

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

People still automatically equate Islam with terrorism.

I equate Islam with bean pies, personally.

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[HideoKojima]

these groups are lowkey becoming the face of Islam. Equating terrorism with Islam may become the norm. They're setting countries back socially and economically. If there is any significant change in a country where these cells occupy, somehow it will thwarted in the name of combating "western influence"

 

[L&HH]

these groups are lowkey becoming the face of Islam. Equating terrorism with Islam may become the norm. They're setting countries back socially and economically. If there is any significant change in a country where these cells occupy, somehow it will thwarted in the name of combating "western influence"

Why isn't the Westboro baptist church becoming the face of Christianity?

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

these groups are lowkey becoming the face of Islam. Equating terrorism with Islam may become the norm. They're setting countries back socially and economically. If there is any significant change in a country where these cells occupy, somehow it will thwarted in the name of combating "western influence"

I present exhibit A

http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2014/08/garwood_resident_removes_isis_flag.html

 

[Trajan]

There needs to be a fatwa by the majority against these pussies like the Taliban, ISIS, and other criminal organizations.

Lol there have been plenty.

Did you know that Saudi Arabia has a highly successful and award-winning terrorist rehabilitation programme? Did you know that two days ago Saudi Arabia gave the UN $100m to combat terrorism?


In fact Muslims denounce suicide bombings whenever they occur both locally and internationally. Western media just doesn't care to pick it up, it's not as sensational as a bunch of Muslims demonstrating and burning American flags.


E.g


We unequivocally condemn the violence committed by ISIS/L (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant). The Muslim Council of Britain speaks out against all violence taking place in Iraq, whoever is the perpetrator.
http://www.mcb.org.uk/muslim-council-of-britain-comments-on-the-situation-in-iraq/


The Muslim Council of Britain today condemned the brutal violence experienced in Kenya, Pakistan and Iraq in which scores of people have lost their lives. In Nairobi, the Kenyan capital, many were killed on Saturday — some fellow Britons — while others are being held hostage. In Pakistan, Pakistani Christians were killed in a bomb in a despicable attack outside a church.
http://www.mcb.org.uk/terrorist-att...ncil-of-britain-decries-a-weekend-of-carnage/



There is the Fatwa issued against terrorism and suicide bombings by an Islamic scholar and endorsed by Al Azhar University, one of the most important Islamic centres in the world

This fatwa is a direct refutation of the ideology of Al-Qaeda and Taliban. It is one of the most extensive ruling, an "absolute" condemnation of terrorism without "any excuses or pretexts"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa_on_Terrorism



I can post Somalia's foremost Sheikhs denouncing Al Shabab....Pakistani Imams refuting the Taliban etc. Beyond that I don't know what you want them to do...they can't control the fallout from geo-political chess games between the great powers.

Muslim should not by synonymous with terrorist but it is.

Is that the fault of the Muslims or the media?

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

but western imperialism is the widest terror ring across the world and its pushed by a hand full of people.. every country theyve been through is rubble and disease mixed with tribes with american weapons..

hammas isnt even a military its a group of people who are allowed under international law to fight ooccupation.. israel isnt allowed to murder 1000+ women and children but it does

You are an ignorant racist man.. you know the media presents an imperialistic narrative.. you know these people had no banks which were related to our financial crisis.. you know these peoples water reserves and hospitals are struck before 'battle' even begins.. and you know they are far weaker than the machine theyre up against

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

but western imperialism is the widest terror ring across the world and its pushed by a hand full of people.. every country theyve been through is rubble and disease mixed with tribes with american weapons..

hammas isnt even a military its a group of people who are allowed under international law to fight ooccupation.. israel isnt allowed to murder 1000+ women and children but it does

You are an ignorant racist man.. you know the media presents an imperialistic narrative.. you know these people had no banks which were related to our financial crisis.. you know these peoples water reserves and hospitals are struck before 'battle' even begins.. and you know they are far weaker than the machine theyre up against

Breh... you got it twisted. I'm a muslim. I don't support Israel and just made a thread about how jews got the united states by the balls. They own/control everything of importance in the media/financial/government sectors. There's a lot of evil shyt going on behind the scenes and hidden agenda's that don't get reported. What Israel is doing right now is systematic genocide Gaza is basically a modern day Jewish ghetto from the world war 2 era. Muslim's simply aren't doing enough or with enough effectiveness.

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

Breh... you got it twisted. I'm a muslim. I don't support Israel and just made a thread about how jews got the united states by the balls. They own/control everything of importance in the media/financial/government sectors. There's a lot of evil shyt going on behind the scenes and hidden agenda's that don't get reported. What Israel is doing right now is systematic genocide Gaza is basically a modern day Jewish ghetto from the world war 2 era. Muslim's simply aren't doing enough or with enough effectiveness.

this is the proble. you have when you devote your life to prayer and family.. you will be marginalised by the people looking for resources and land.. i think muslims are fatigued.. theyve not been given a chance to rise independantly, everytimr it looks likely we intervene.. apologies for calling you ignorant and racist.. it seemed you were generalising when we know the power of the media, and above all that the majority of people in the world want peace, some just see it harder to come by than others

 

[L&HH]

Breh... you got it twisted. I'm a muslim. I don't support Israel and just made a thread about how jews got the united states by the balls. They own/control everything of importance in the media/financial/government sectors. There's a lot of evil shyt going on behind the scenes and hidden agenda's that don't get reported. What Israel is doing right now is systematic genocide Gaza is basically a modern day Jewish ghetto from the world war 2 era. Muslim's simply aren't doing enough or with enough effectiveness.

So you're admitting that a Jewish dominated western media has a large influence on the public perception in a western society yet you're still blaming Muslims for how they are perceived in the western world?

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

So you're admitting that a Jewish dominated western media has a large influence on the public perception in a western society yet you're still blaming Muslims for how they are perceived in the western world?

Gotta do more regardless. That's the problem. We accept shyt for what it is and that's that. The white media portrayed black people in a negative light during the civil rights era. Gays were portrayed and are still portrayed in a negative light but all of those groups flipped it (relatively speaking).