I don’t think we will be able to advance as a people if we don’t stop the weave and n word usage

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Two of these things are the WOAT mental psyops done on black people.

A woman uncomfortable to wear her hair as it naturally grows out of her head. I am not poo pooing the reasoning, but we have to get to a point where wearing a weave of hair that is not like your original texture at all or straightening it, is similar to skin bleaching, absolutely ridiculous to even think of.

The n word is another thing that constantly brings us to a subhuman status. Because that’s what that word was used for, and still is used, today. But there’s a cognitive dissonance going on when trying to say ending it with an “a” instead of an “er” is any different.

You feel conflicted using the “er” for a reason. You know deep down.

You feel conflicted with “others” using the n word regardless of the “a” or “er” ending.

That’s curious. And usually how these “we should reconsider using the n word” people just call me an n word. Despicable. Whatever happened to brother, sister?

Anyways, these things are deep rooted things not to be simply disregarded.

1. Self image
2. Self identification
 

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agree in the n word usage.

Disagree on the weave front. Everything black people do to their hair doesn't need to be analyzed and condemned.
Its fashion. Tastes change. sometimes you'll be a fan, sometimes you won't. Nothing more than that.

and personally i think a lot black women flock to it simply due to ease of use, rather than psychological trauma. black hair can be difficult to manage. and women also like to have options and switch up their look from time to time. not everybody wants to invest 4 years commiting to the growth of maintenance of locs.
 

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What do you mean "advance"?

Will white people abandon white supremacy and stop sending police to kill and jail us because our aesthetics have changed?

Will interest rates(controlled by white bankers) change because black people have stopped saying the N word?

Will people be able to access healthcare, jobs, and childcare because they now listen to country music and vacuous meaningless pop music like Sabrina carpenter and Benson Boone?

Some of the people putting in the most work right now helping the formerly incarcerated find jobs, helping parents with child care, and providing eviction prevention services are individuals that couldnt care less about how they appear to people who hate them no matter what and are instead focused on direct actions to help people in their communities. There are black women who run beauty shops and sell wigs that are some of the biggest contributors to church clothing and food drives. There are men who own barbershops and call their favorite customers "my ngga" who are some of the biggest employers in their neighborhood and are keeping young men away from crime.

It is far too common for people to look at us like we are a group that can move as one when in reality we are a collection of individuals with life experiences that shape what we believe and how we choose to act in the world. Why do white people get to be indivuduals but we are a group that has to "get it together"? Look at the state of white america itself. The drug addiction, broken families, crime, horrendous abuse of children and women, etc.

Are they advanced? When you look at donald trump do you see a man who is thriving?
 

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Two of these things are the WOAT mental psyops done on black people.

A woman uncomfortable to wear her hair as it naturally grows out of her head. I am not poo pooing the reasoning, but we have to get to a point where wearing a weave of hair that is not like your original texture at all or straightening it, is similar to skin bleaching, absolutely ridiculous to even think of.

The n word is another thing that constantly brings us to a subhuman status. Because that’s what that word was used for, and still is used, today. But there’s a cognitive dissonance going on when trying to say ending it with an “a” instead of an “er” is any different.

You feel conflicted using the “er” for a reason. You know deep down.

You feel conflicted with “others” using the n word regardless of the “a” or “er” ending.

That’s curious. And usually how these “we should reconsider using the n word” people just call me an n word. Despicable. Whatever happened to brother, sister?

Anyways, these things are deep rooted things not to be simply disregarded.

1. Self image
2. Self identification
:comeon: It's 2025, and only 25 states have laws that prevent Black women from getting fired for wearing their natural hair. That means in half of the country, a Black woman can be legally fired for not adhering to white beauty standards when it comes to her hair and even in states where the Crown Act has passed, like Texas, it hasn't ended natural hair discrimination. Y'all love to talk about Black women hating their hair, but never talk about the standards that created that self-hate that are STILL IN EFFECT.


The CROWN Act hasn’t ended hair discrimination in Texas​

Jennifer Wyatt Bourgeois and Howard Henderson

November 28, 2023

  • State-level versions of the CROWN Act, which prohibits race-based hair discrimination, contain loopholes that enable the discriminatory targeting of Black hairstyles.
  • The persistent policing of Black students’ natural hair sends the message that their hair is inherently unprofessional, inappropriate, and worthy of suspension and leads to disparate academic outcomes.
  • Only through robust legislative protections, proactive enforcement, and a fundamental shift in mindset can we create school environments where Black children are free to embrace the inherent beauty and dignity of their natural hair.
 

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agree in the n word usage.

Disagree on the weave front. Everything black people do to their hair doesn't need to be analyzed and condemned.
Its fashion. Tastes change. sometimes you'll be a fan, sometimes you won't. Nothing more than that.

and personally i think a lot black women flock to it simply due to ease of use, rather than psychological trauma. black hair can be difficult to manage. and women also like to have options and switch up their look from time to time. not everybody wants to invest 4 years commiting to the growth of maintenance of locs.

You seriously believe there is not an issue behind how black women view their natural hair?

There is even a label for wearing hair close to how it comes out of your head, natural hair. You don’t find that odd? No other race of women does that.

I’d also disagree that’s it’s difficult to maintain, it of course depends on the style but what is wrong with just rocking a fro? Natural hair, moisturize it, then pick it out.
 

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What do you mean "advance"?

Will white people abandon white supremacy and stop sending police to kill and jail us because our aesthetics have changed?

Will interest rates(controlled by white bankers) change because black people have stopped saying the N word?

Will people be able to access healthcare, jobs, and childcare because they now listen to country music and vacuous meaningless pop music like Sabrina carpenter and Benson Boone?

Some of the people putting in the most work right now helping the formerly incarcerated find jobs, helping parents with child care, and providing eviction prevention services are individuals that couldnt care less about how they appear to people who hate them no matter what and are instead focused on direct actions to help people in their communities. There are black women who run beauty shops and sell wigs that are some of the biggest contributors to church clothing and food drives. There are men who own barbershops and call their favorite customers "my ngga" who are some of the biggest employers in their neighborhood and are keeping young men away from crime.

It is far too common for people to look at us like we are a group that can move as one when in reality we are a collection of individuals with life experiences that shape what we believe and how we choose to act in the world. Why do white people get to be indivuduals but we are a group that has to "get it together"? Look at the state of white america itself. The drug addiction, broken families, crime, horrendous abuse of children and women, etc.

Are they advanced? When you look at donald trump do you see a man who is thriving?

Advance as a people is not something dependent on the relationship with another people. So all of that is invalid. The ability to come together and work together as a proud people, and create our own things separate of white people is the only way.
 

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Equating wearing weave to the n word brehs

But yes, sadly those are the two biggest roadblocks ahead of us :troll:

Next you gonna say we as as a people will never rise until @Roger king rep rises again :mjlol:

What bigger of a roadblock do you think there is outside of a mental one? I genuinely believe, unfortunately, a lot of black folks think of themselves as lesser than, and these two issues are mental barriers to thinking otherwise.

A woman’s self image is very important to herself.
A man’s worth is very important to himself.

Altering your appearance so that it doesn’t look the way it naturally grows out of your head, and freely labeling yourself and others that look like you as subhuman will keep people in a mental cage.

And that’s what we’re dealing with, more than any physical cage.
 

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:comeon: It's 2025, and only 25 states have laws that prevent Black women from getting fired for wearing their natural hair. That means in half of the country, a Black woman can be legally fired for not adhering to white beauty standards when it comes to her hair and even in states where the Crown Act has passed, like Texas, it hasn't ended natural hair discrimination. Y'all love to talk about Black women hating their hair, but never talk about the standards that created that self-hate that are STILL IN EFFECT.


The CROWN Act hasn’t ended hair discrimination in Texas​

Jennifer Wyatt Bourgeois and Howard Henderson

November 28, 2023

  • State-level versions of the CROWN Act, which prohibits race-based hair discrimination, contain loopholes that enable the discriminatory targeting of Black hairstyles.
  • The persistent policing of Black students’ natural hair sends the message that their hair is inherently unprofessional, inappropriate, and worthy of suspension and leads to disparate academic outcomes.
  • Only through robust legislative protections, proactive enforcement, and a fundamental shift in mindset can we create school environments where Black children are free to embrace the inherent beauty and dignity of their natural hair.

This is a problem. And why I advocate for complete separation. We were more comfortable in our natural element prior to desegregation.
 
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