I played in both eras, I played against both of them. Jordan is the #GOAT - Ray Allen

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I always laugh when the media hype boys are surprised or flustered when guys that actually played vs both Lebron and MJ say Jordan is the GOAT. Patrick tried to get Ray to, but Ray wasn't budging.

there are just a few guys that can say they played vs both Lebron and Jordan. Paul and Ray Allen both say Jordan is the #GOAT.

Ray also says MJ would average 45 a game today, in his prime. Alonzo Mourning and Phil Jackson have both said the same. these are guys that actually played in both eras :yeshrug:
 
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Jordan is not averaging 45ppg :gucci:Do nikkas really know basketball or are they living in an alternate reality. I’d give him 40ppg though.

And Bron doesn’t have the resume to be called better than Mike but he’s damn close. And keeping it a buck there’s things he flat does better than Mike did...not the mention he’s faced better comp.

Like if Lebron wins 2 more this convo might be legit because Lebron is the better overall player. But no one has Mike’s resume so it is what is :yeshrug:
 
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CHICAGO said:
IVERSON AND KG
PLAYED BOTH ALSO...

WE KNOW WHO THEIR GOAT IS.

SO THATS ATLEAST 5 RIGHT THERE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS MIKE
WOULD AVERAGE 40 IN THIS LEAGUE.

A 5'8 PG JUST AVERAGED 30.
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Without question, maybe even more then 40 if that little midget shyt can average 30

And Kobe wouldnt be too far behind MJ, those nikkas were cut from a different cloth :wow:

Last of a dying breed :wow:

The Hardens and Durant's should never be compared to even Kobe, let alone MJ
 
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A few things:

I watched both eras, and my takes always have been this:

1. Lebron is mentally and physically built to compile the craziest stats in NBA History.

2. I don't think stats alone make you the best. The object of the game is to win rings, but just compile great stats. Kobe Bryant had some numbers Jordan didn't have either - i.e. the only player in history with 30k pts, 7krbs, and 6asts when he retired. Lebron passed him now - but nobody who says Lebron's stats make him better than Jordan, are arguing that Kobe's stats make him better than Mike. Also, Kobe played in a conference that was ALWAYS competitive. On top of that Kobe has the Nine All-NBA First Team selections, and when you consider his total statline AND the defensive awards, dude is really been shortchanged by fans and media who just found his style and personality offputting.

Jordan was a combination of great athlete, great will, and great skill offensively and defensively. Dude won MVP and DPOY in one season. How, Sway?

People talk about Lebron's blocks, but Jordan had back to back seasons of 120+, and Lebron never had a season of 100. Lebron never had a season of 3 steals, and Jordan had multiple seasons like that.

Nah.

MJ is the GOAT to me.

Also, I just feel some of the guys considered stars now, wouldn't necessarily be A or A+ stars when the game was more physical.
 
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ESPN alone damn near destroyed Lebrons spirit. imagine a peak MJ going against Lebron and some "whos better" mumbo jumbo is goings on.
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