The mental hurdles used when you say "black" "social" "conservatism".
Everyone here knows the difference between a religious conservative and a fiscal conservative. But we're also smart enough to know that your preference for one strengthens your preference for the other. So don't give me that shyt about being a "black" social conservative as if you don't believe the same piss poor economic theories, don't listen to the same piss poor media outlets, and don't condone the same dog whistle politics that continues to plague black achievement in this country.
You muhfukkas are just black. The only difference between you and one of these numb nut klan trump supporters it that you have to recognize the color of your skin. It's your only saving grace. And your name is Cactain Planet, which completely removes that trump card.
Conservative ideology has never supported progressive labor laws created to help the poor and minorities
Conservative ideology has never supported progressive military integration
Conservative ideology has always fought for the stricter penal code throughout US territory
Conservative ideology has always used religious fervor to dictate pure white protestant and evangelical beliefs at the expense of black muslims, black christians, and blacks who remained loyal to african spirits
Conservative ideology didn't support the New Deal, which means something as popular as Social Security has always been on the chopping block. Conservative Dems and Conservative republican can both eat turd on this account.
Conservative ideology has never pushed through minority representation in the arts and sciences. All those achievements gained were pushed through by those with a progressive cause and a liberal mind.
Conservative ideology created stupid shyt like "reefer madness"
Conservative ideology gave us prohibition
Conservatives have always been racist ass crackers holding back the progress of this country for ethnic minorities, women, and children. That is conservatism.
You muhfukkas don't push environmental causes.
You've railroaded every major healthcare advancement in our countries history.
Not a single "black" "social" "conservative" would survive in America without progressive and liberal causes.
You nikkas keep hiding behind republican and democrat like we don't know that 50% of whites in this countries histroy, at all times, were racist pieces of shyt. You nikkas keep talking that "Democrats did this" shyt like we don't know to identify Southern Democrats with Jim Crow and White Republicans/Democrats in the North with urban segregation. Always living this revisionist history about being the party of Lincoln so you can piggyback off of the civil war and emancipation proclamation. Well Teddy Roosevelt was a republican too nikka, how many of y'all are ready to walk down to wall street and kick some ass? I didn't think so.
Get the fukk out of here b.
Please, show us the conservative movement that Americans should be thankful for.
Please show us the conservative movement that black americans should be thankful for.
You nikkas just yell "black private" "black business" "black ownership" even though every single candidate and every single policy you've ever supported sucks the ever living shyt out of black wealth.
You nikkas can't explain how your city/state has fared under conservative leadership since the 1870s. You nikkas consistently understate black unemployment and health disparities at the hands of Southern Democrats and Republicans, and consistently overstate the standalone power of black entrepreneurship.
Stop it.
The original post talked about being a conservative breh and why one would align with those values as if anyone that didn't was an alien or some shyt. I responded to thread starter cause I liked the conversation and I will take a stab at your comment even though it wasnt addressed to me because you make fair points...
Keep in mind breh that we might agree on more things then we disagree on as I will freely admit that the republican party of the 70's, 80's and 90's was bad for minorities and the democratic party may have been slightly better (even though I believe they knowingly exploited the minority vote) but the democratic party of today is even worse and is actually holding minorities back. Am I saying that I recommend being a republican?? NO but i do recommend that minorities choose candidates that better align with our ideals and if we cant find any then don't support anyone. The republican party that shut out minorities is all but dead and if it wants to remake itself and survive it will have to change which is where some of us might find a place to vote. I have always had more conservative leaning social values breh, they just made more sense to me--I cant apologize for that but here is where I will take on some of your points:
Conservative ideology has never supported progressive labor laws created to help the poor and minorities
We talking unions here or child labor laws and a 40 hour work week?? Cause if you are talking about unions they have helped in some areas and hurt us in others --our schools are shyt partially because of unions and the inability to fire bad teachers and the reshuffling that takes place into minority neighborhoods which should be outlawed. If you are talking about labor laws that shyt took place 100 years ago breh -- cant help you pre civil rights.
Conservative ideology has never supported progressive military integration
Breh military integration began in 1949 and ended in 1954 that was 67 years ago... everyone back then was conservative and the democratic party was pro working man but anti black... Truman began military integration but again that was a hell of a long time ago.. today we are trying to put trannies on the front lines and women in combat with men.. we are integrated the military under the neo liberal order but we should be advocating co-ed bootcamp and bullshyt like that.
Conservative ideology has always fought for the stricter penal code throughout US territory
On this you are correct breh, conservatives are strict on crime. In some cases it is good and in some cases it is bad. If someone beat your mom, i think you would want them locked up for a minute, liberals would have them back on the street in 48 hours. But I will agree that we need to look at correction and rehabilitation not just locking cats up for minor offenses
Conservative ideology has always used religious fervor to dictate pure white protestant and evangelical beliefs at the expense of black muslims, black christians, and blacks who remained loyal to african spirits
Again breh this was 50 years ago and you have a point but today but today liberals are more likely to force churches to perform gay weddings, restrict what they consider "hate speech" and take away any tax breaks which will close alot of those joints down. Christians are the easy target for now but muslims will inevitably be included in any of the coming religion bashing legislation.
Conservative ideology didn't support the New Deal, which means something as popular as Social Security has always been on the chopping block. Conservative Dems and Conservative republican can both eat turd on this account.
The new deal happened in 1933 breh.. again everyone was conservative by todays standards back then,. and social security will be gone by the time you are old enough to get it
Conservative ideology has never pushed through minority representation in the arts and sciences. All those achievements gained were pushed through by those with a progressive cause and a liberal mind.
There are plenty of scientists and artists in the black community that arent liberal breh--booker t washington was a republican breh.. back then democrats and republicans were completely switched he was also attended church every sunday and would be considered a conservative on certain social issues but progressive on others. I think this is where we get mixed up
Conservative ideology gave us prohibition
Feminists gave us prohibition breh and feminists have always been considered progressive.
So here is my point tru m.a.c. you are a smart cat some I can agree with some of your points but this is my point and I hope you can see the logic behind it.. liberalism has changed throughout history to where it is today. i would have been a liberal 20-30 years ago but I cant be today. Many of the people that advanced black causes back then were social liberals but they fought for progressive social change.. that is where I am at today.
Can you understand that some of us do not embrace equating LGBT rights and struggles to that of minorities? Or that we should embrace transgender cause, past the point of tolerance (which I agree with) but to the point of promotion in schools?
Can you understand that some of us are worried that the definition of hate speech will go too far, into places like sermons and stand up comedy where it shouldn't be. Or that some of don't believe in forced anti discrimination laws to the point of forcing a church to perform a wedding they may not agree with- either muslim or christian. Or maybe globalism is not such a good idea in that moms call center job can be transplanted to India half price. These are some of the things neo liberals beleive and that is why some of us are pushed closer to the point where we are labeled conservative. I am not that conservative but I am not going to sit and ride all the way to fringe left of my party just to say I am a still down or socially conscious.
