I want to love the XBox 1, but......

[The Devil's Advocate]

900p 1080p




I don't see the difference

*continues playing FIFA 15 while watching netflix at the same time on the X1*

The problem is not that you can see it. The problem is that it's a known problem to everyone in the game industry, gamers included

As time goes on, devs will put out bigger games, better graphics, more shyt going on at once, as they learn the systems better. First year games don't even come close to the last of the gen games, cause they learn more as time goes on

So what do you think it's gonna be like in 2016, 2018, 2020? Being that I'd have to pay the exact same price for both systems, what would make anyone have faith in the one?

It's like buying a Honda or a bmw. Yea they both drive. And the speed limit is gonna say 70. But dammit when I want to go faster and have a smoother ride doing it, it's nice to know you have the power to do so. Without having to soup up your rice burner with aftermarket parts (tiled resources)

 

[Rekkapryde]

The problem is not that you can see it. The problem is that it's a known problem to everyone in the game industry, gamers included

As time goes on, devs will put out bigger games, better graphics, more shyt going on at once, as they learn the systems better. First year games don't even come close to the last of the gen games, cause they learn more as time goes on

So what do you think it's gonna be like in 2016, 2018, 2020? Being that I'd have to pay the exact same price for both systems, what would make anyone have faith in the one?

It's like buying a Honda or a bmw. Yea they both drive. And the speed limit is gonna say 70. But dammit when I want to go faster and have a smoother ride doing it, it's nice to know you have the power to do so. Without having to soup up your rice burner with aftermarket parts (tiled resources)

DStyles is a troll breh.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The problem is not that you can see it. The problem is that it's a known problem to everyone in the game industry, gamers included

As time goes on, devs will put out bigger games, better graphics, more shyt going on at once, as they learn the systems better. First year games don't even come close to the last of the gen games, cause they learn more as time goes on

So what do you think it's gonna be like in 2016, 2018, 2020? Being that I'd have to pay the exact same price for both systems, what would make anyone have faith in the one?

It's like buying a Honda or a bmw. Yea they both drive. And the speed limit is gonna say 70. But dammit when I want to go faster and have a smoother ride doing it, it's nice to know you have the power to do so. Without having to soup up your rice burner with aftermarket parts (tiled resources)

You are greatly exaggerating the power advatantage. PS3 games were further behind 360 games last gen and the pa3 ended up OK.

Xbox one has the best looking next gen games in Ryse and Forza Horizon, and those are very early games. X1 will be able to produce very impressive graphics for years to come.

BMW vs Honda

More like charger VS camaro

 

[Rekkapryde]

KZSF is easily the best looking next gen game.

And Infamous SS is second.

DC will probably take the crown from KZSF or at least be equal to it.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

no one wanted kinect? thats a hot lie.
I'm loving it. and so are a lot of other people. now as far as developers. they obviously REFUSE to develop for it. I've said this before. they are holding gaming back by doing that. shure Oculus is great. but thats not the only avenue. We need to get ready for that next level of gaming(holograms). to do that you have to first start off with swinging at the air. cause a hologram isnt a legit object. the only difference with it being on screen vs in your living room in 3d. is thats it seems closer to you. but its still just you swinging at air. we need to have the kinect and things like it. to bridge that gap. because holograms is where gaming will be going. we wont be wearing a bunch of oculus glasses all the time.

shame on those devs for not having an imagination. i've said a few things i would like the kinect used for in REAL games not just kiddy/party games.

and that fitness is on point.

so even without the games. the fitness + controlling all of your components(TV, Audio, etc) by voice or hand gestures is a beautiful thing.

THIS!!!!

Now it may seem I'm going back and forth. And that's cause I'm not a Stan. I've owned every major system since Atari. All the playstations. All the xboxes except the 1. But I had it on preorder. Until the e3 fiasco. Even HAVE a kinect

Kinect was supposed to be the future. You could literally put yourself in the game (like that Kung fu joint) and fight people. It was supposed to be damn near VR by now. It's like 5 plus years later and what do we have..........

Motherfukking voice commands, a few games that lean and fukking kiddie bullshyt. Where's the real games?? Seems 360 started off with a few games in that direction, fable, Star Wars, kung fu. Then completely dropped the ball

Can't even blame it on 3rd party. Microsoft doesn't even have any AAA games coming down the pipe for this thing. Yet they trying to sell it in commercials like its God gift to systems. You could literally use a $2 headset or put a mic in the controller and have the same effect

The other options are cool. But I cannot think of any time in history I was playing a game while thinking, I wish I could catch up on house of cards simultaneously. Forget that I have a smart tv, pip and can easily hit the input button.

I, and Im guessing most buyers, would rather just have taken those away and put it into hardware and some real kinect games. They have the hardware in kinect to set themselves on a totally other level and its all about voice commands

 

[Rico]

So the ps4 has a 720p cam and Kinect is 1080p. Hmmm

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

You are greatly exaggerating the power advatantage. PS3 games were further behind 360 games last gen and the pa3 ended up OK.

Xbox one has the best looking next gen games in Ryse and Forza Horizon, and those are very early games. X1 will be able to produce very impressive graphics for years to come.

BMW vs Honda

More like charger VS camaro

That was a programming issue. Which is why midway through I dumped my PS3 for a 360. I'm not blinded by reality. When devs are consistently making multiplats (which happen to be most of the games we all buy) better for one system, I'm going to go with that system.

But the AAA titles from Sony were murdering the 360 off top. Uncharted proved devs could do it, it just cost too much and took too much time, so they didn't. I wasn't gonna argue. Just go with what is better for what id spend money on

This gen seems to have flipped. 3rd parties and doing it better on ps4 AND the exclusives look better too. So I came on back. MS could have convinced many people they had a secret weapon with some AAA kinect games or some crazy new tech. But they didn't.

If 3rd party devs can't even get games to reach 1080 p in the first year. How the hell do I expect gta 6 and madden 17 to be looking?

 

[Rico]

Don't be ignorant like none if these devs can get 1080p. Look at every sports game. Or Destiny

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That was a programming issue. Which is why midway through I dumped my PS3 for a 360. I'm not blinded by reality. When devs are consistently making multiplats (which happen to be most of the games we all buy) better for one system, I'm going to go with that system.

Fair enough. But in reality PC is where you get the best performance.

But the AAA titles from Sony were murdering the 360 off top. Uncharted proved devs could do it, it just cost too much and took too much time, so they didn't. I wasn't gonna argue. Just go with what is better for what id spend money on

Same can be said now with X1 with games like Ryse and Forza

This gen seems to have flipped. 3rd parties and doing it better on ps4 AND the exclusives look better too. So I came on back. MS could have convinced many people they had a secret weapon with some AAA kinect games or some crazy new tech. But they didn't.

But this isn't true at all. It's an Xbox exclusive that has the best graphics so far. It's an Xbox exclusive that is the only game on either system to run at a locked 1080p 60fps. Its an Xbox exclusive that's the best looking racing game out.

If 3rd party devs can't even get games to reach 1080 p in the first year. How the hell do I expect gta 6 and madden 17 to be looking?

3rd party devs can reach 1080p on X1. Destiny which is probably the best looking 3rd party game to date is running at 1080p on X1. And performace gets better over the course of a generation, not worse. The amount of 1080p games will continue to increase. And furthermore resolution alone is not the only quantifier of graphics quality.

The Ryse devs chose to go with 900P and a great AA solution cause it looked better than 1080p with less AA and that game was voted best graphics by the leading authority on computer graphics. If they don't view 1080p as some kind of litmus test, then why should we?

 

[Mowgli]

Love trash bruhs. Xbox one consumers are in an abusive relationship

 

[Rekkapryde]

Don't be ignorant like none if these devs can get 1080p. Look at every sports game. Or Destiny

Every game doesn't require the power to hit 1080p with no problems. You know this....

some games do, some don't. That's like braggin about both systems hitting 1080p with pacman (relax, it's an example).

Diablo 3 was upgraded to 1080p with MS making threats and shyt, but the framerate suffered. If it's gonna make the game suffer just to say, "look, we can do it too" is idiotic.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Every game doesn't require the power to hit 1080p with no problems. You know this....

some games do, some don't. That's like braggin about both systems hitting 1080p with pacman (relax, it's an example).

Diablo 3 was upgraded to 1080p with MS making threats and shyt, but the framerate suffered. If it's gonna make the game suffer just to say, "look, we can do it too" is idiotic.

Killzone, Infamous, COD, Amongst plenty other games have shytty framerates on PS4. If the game is gonna suffer just to say "look what we can do" is idiotic

 

[Rekkapryde]

Killzone, Infamous, COD, Amongst plenty other games have shytty framerates on PS4. If the game is gonna suffer just to say "look what we can do" is idiotic

Nope. If you want a locked 30,you have the option on the ps4 exclusives.

With D3,its solid 60 on the ps4. I play it EXTENSIVELY. Before forcing 1080p on the larrybox version, it was a solid 900p60.

fukkin larrybox had framerate issues with COD ghosts at 720p!!!!!

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Nope. If you want a locked 30,you have the option on the ps4 exclusives.

No you don't. They drop below 30 way more than D3 drops below 60 on Xbox

With D3,its solid 60 on the ps4. I play it EXTENSIVELY. Before forcing 1080p on the larrybox version, it was a solid 900p60.

And on Xbox it barely ever drops below 60. DF said it only dropped once or twice through their ENTIRE Playthrough.

fukkin larrybox had framerate issues with COD ghosts at 720p!!!!!

fukking PS4 had a much worse framerate than Xbox.