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Savvir

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You still fail to realize mortality is going to be done away with.

Literally.

There will be no more mortality.

Right now is just the separation of the wheat from the tares.

Because sin caused that effect.
Plants and animals were not dying before man sinned.

GOD is letting sinful man and redeemed man choose their path in this mortal.

So that there won't be second time.

1000 years is as a day with the Lord.
And GOD has given mankind a time clock of 7 days of mortality.

7000 years from Adam's original sin.
Nothing of what you said negates my post.

The temporal nature or mortality is irrelevant. Mortality exists under Gods will. And will cease to exist under Gods will. This is the case for everything in existence. You’re not saying anything new.

The wheats existence is Gods will.

The fares existence is Gods will.

The separation of them is Gods will.

Looking at any side of the equation is merely studying Gods will.

Please stop the “but _____ is only temporary/not original”

Anything that exists is under Gods will period. Therefore everything in existence is a reflection of what God wanted to be. Otherwise it wouldn’t exist.
 

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Nothing of what you said negates my post.

The temporal nature or mortality is irrelevant. Mortality exists under Gods will. And will cease to exist under Gods will. This is the case for everything in existence. You’re not saying anything new.

The wheats existence is Gods will.

The fares existence is Gods will.

The separation of them is Gods will.

Looking at any side of the equation is merely studying Gods will.

Please stop the “but _____ is only temporary/not original”

Anything that exists is under Gods will period. Therefore everything in existence is a reflection of what God wanted to be. Otherwise it wouldn’t exist.

It's very relevant.
It didn't have to be.
Mankind's choice made it happen.
GOD always has an alternate plan.

But the basis of repentance is knowing that mankind made a mistake and GOD is going to fix it.

So if you won't admit that this isn't the reality GOD meant for mankind then how can you repent? You believe it's as it's supposed to be.
 

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So if you won't admit that this isn't the reality GOD meant for mankind then how can you repent? You believe it's as it's supposed to be.
So are you saying there are things that are completely out of Gods control?

Yes or no.

If yes… then God is not omnipotent. And I’m completely wrong.

If no… then everything is as it’s supposed to be because God has the ability to change it if he wanted it different. He allows all things to be under his will.

If you repent you get to go to heaven. The sin, the repentance, and heaven all exist under his will.

If you don’t repent you go to hell. Sin and the punishment of Hell exists under his will.
 

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So are you saying there are things that are completely out of Gods control?

Yes or no.

If yes… then God is not omnipotent. And I’m completely wrong.

If no… then everything is as it’s supposed to be because God has the ability to change it if he wanted it different. He allows all things to be under his will.

If you repent you get to go to heaven. The sin, the repentance, and heaven all exist under his will.

If you don’t repent you go to hell. Sin and the punishment of Hell exists under his will.

I just told you GOD always has a backup plan.

Heaven and Earth will be recreated at the end of the mortal time clock.

Eternity is the original state, which is what GOD is going to reset every living thing back to. Earth and Heaven will be recreated, and every one saved will get new immortal bodies.

Hell and the lake of fire was meant only for rebellious angels.

Matthew 25:41
“Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
 
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I just told you GOD always has a backup plan.

Heaven and Earth will be recreated at the end of the mortal time clock.

Eternity is the original state, which is what GOD is going to reset every living thing back to.

Hell was meant only for rebellious angels.

Matthew 25:41
All that stuff is fine. I’m not arguing against any of the things you are listing.

I’m just pointing out that they all only exist because of Gods will. Nothing can exist without God allowing it to be.

:yeshrug:

You keep running in circles. You need to go speak with your local pastor or theologian about this topic.
 

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All that stuff is fine. I’m not arguing against any of the things you are listing.

I’m just pointing out that they all only exist because of Gods will. Nothing can exist without God allowing it to be.

:yeshrug:

You keep running in circles. You need to go speak with your local pastor or theologian about this topic.

You keep contradicting that GOD didn't create it to happen that way. He can fix anything though, because it's HIS creation.

Just like an invention can break but the inventor can fix it.
 

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You keep contradicting that GOD didn't create it to happen that way. He can fix anything though, because it's HIS creation.

Just like an invention can break but the inventor can fix it.
An inventor doesn’t control reality.

If an inventor controlled reality, and had a choice to make a reality where his invention never breaks.

Or even adjust reality after it breaks to make it unbroken.

Then that inventor would be purposely allowing his invention to break. The invention breaking becomes his choice because he has full control over reality and his inventions condition.

If he wanted it unbroken forever… he could make that happen.

If he thinks his inventions should be allowed to break… It’s his will allowing that.

Such is the situation with God.
 

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An inventor doesn’t control reality.

If an inventor controlled reality, and had a choice to make a reality where his invention never breaks.

Or even adjust reality after it breaks to make it unbroken.

Then that inventor would be purposely allowing his invention to break. The invention breaking becomes his choice because he has full control over reality and his inventions condition.

If he wanted it unbroken forever… he could make that happen.

If he thinks his inventions should be allowed to break… It’s his will allowing that.

Such is the situation with God.

Ok breh, just arguing to argue.
 

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Ok breh, just arguing to argue.
I never thought I would be arguing that God is an omnipotent entity that controls existence against a self described Christian.

Why do you underestimate Gods power? As though there are things that exist beyond his will?
 

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I never thought I would be arguing that God is an omnipotent entity that controls existence against a self described Christian.

Why do you underestimate Gods power? As though there are things that exist beyond his will?

Your arrogance is showing....

GOD has more than enough power to wrangle a rebellious creation.

Not only did mankind rebel, but many angels who are much stronger than mankind rebelled also.
 
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