If Jesus was real why is he absent from any historical texts?

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Walking on water turning water into wine but no mention of any of these things being done by any man. This to me is where the whole Christian narrative falls apart. You can't be that guy in your holy texts but the historical ones don't even acknowledge your existence.
 

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Jesus became martyred after his death so his reputation grew bigger after the fact. While he was alive all of his legendary moments was among a minority not the majority. Constantine the great is the reason for Christianity's global popularity. Once Constantine took interest, the bandwagon jump started right there.
 

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Jesus became martyred after his death so his reputation grew bigger after the fact. While he was alive all of his legendary moments was among a minority not the majority. Constantine the great is the reason for Christianity's global popularity. Once Constantine took interest, the bandwagon jump started right there.
This plus his origins being rooted in Northern African/Ethiopian (Akubulan) & Egyptian spirituality until Constantine and the Jesuits took hold of it and adopted a new identity for it hence the breakup of the churches as described in revelation.

Technically the term "Christian" was created later on probably after Paul/Saul and literally thousands of his followers were tortured and killed in the most inhumane ways (including being boiled alive) for almost a century and his last name wasn't Christ, that was his title.

It's mostly talked about in art literature because of Da Vinci's depiction of Cesare Borgia. And Armaic translation was altered to Latin which resulted in name changes.
 
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I'm not religious nor do I believe the miracles performed and I also question his existence, but writing was so limited in this time if someone or an ideology was deemed an enemy of the state, the greatest way to deny the spread of that ideology is to never mention it.

Look at media today, if they don't want something to exist, it doesn’t exist or it becomes heresay or conspiracy or a million other illusions.
 

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Walking on water turning water into wine but no mention of any of these things being done by any man. This to me is where the whole Christian narrative falls apart. You can't be that guy in your holy texts but the historical ones don't even acknowledge your existence.

You do realize it's been 2,000 years right? :pachaha:


Judea was a backwater equivalent to West Virginia in America , under Roman administration. So there would be no real reason to keep records of some manger brat causing trouble.

Especially because the paper records were kept on papyrus which rots. And only the nobility got records of themselves carved in metal or stone. This is made even worse because the literacy rate in the first century was 3% among jews, so even fewer hands were capable of documenting history


To give you an example of what I mean, Historically speaking there's only two pieces of evidence that say the Roman governor of the region, Pontious Pilate , ever existed. And these ones only survived because one of them was a ring made of gold and the other one was a literal carved rock. So if the whole noble governor of Jesus' province is barely remembered 2000 years later, why the hell would some random death row convict be remembered? :francis:
 

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Walking on water turning water into wine but no mention of any of these things being done by any man. This to me is where the whole Christian narrative falls apart. You can't be that guy in your holy texts but the historical ones don't even acknowledge your existence.
Does Josephus count as a historian?
 

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Walking on water turning water into wine but no mention of any of these things being done by any man. This to me is where the whole Christian narrative falls apart. You can't be that guy in your holy texts but the historical ones don't even acknowledge your existence.

there's countless reasons the narrative fall apart besides this.
 
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