If Kiss & Styles' We Gonna Make It never drops & all heads heard was Ras Kass' Home Sweet Home...is that beat STILL looked at as one of ALC's dopest
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Was really hoping this would get brought up.
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
I had "Home Sweet Home" first, so I was into that more than "We Gonna Make It", back then.
But they're both dope to me.
ALC said Ras didn't pay him everything he owed for the beat, so he sold it to Kiss. Ras said he paid him $3,000 for it, which is mad cheap for what ALC was getting back then. So it looks like he still owed some bread and lost the beat because of it.
But they're both dope to me.
ALC said Ras didn't pay him everything he owed for the beat, so he sold it to Kiss. Ras said he paid him $3,000 for it, which is mad cheap for what ALC was getting back then. So it looks like he still owed some bread and lost the beat because of it.
Yea. Happened to my boy before. Couldnβt really afford to pay a producers full rate so he leased it for a few years. Producer ended up selling it to a bigger artist later. (This was close to 15 years ago so I may not have all the details accurate).You can lease beats
TheDarceKnight
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the wild thing is that for a long time Ras cooled off about this and he even did several songs with Alc in the late 00's and 10's but since Covid Ras has started bringing up this issue again more often.
I get that it's probably a sore spot for him, but I can't help but thing if We Gonna Make It was a smaller song, Ras still wouldn't be talking about it.
T.he I.nformant
1st Ballot HOF Teller
Since when have producers put their beats on layaway? 
Piff Perkins
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It's a dope beat regardless but the question here is basically "does a bad song matter if the beat is good." Imagine the Thriller track going to someone else and having a different hook...is it a hit? Depends on who gets it...imagine if it's a meh singer and meh songwriter. Nobody would care about that (instrumental) track despite it being amazing.
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
Beat would still be dope regardless, but the impact would be so minimal. Ras Kass didn't have any sort of mainstream reach in 2001.
TheDarceKnight
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Paying in installments or half up front and half later was super common back in the day. I donβt know about now though. Probably not nowSince when have producers put their beats on layaway?