If sony released 7 million units sold to end users why isnt MS giving end user sales?

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why are they giving us distribution numbers of 5...why arent they giving raw facts...along with titanfall #'s ?

Xstans I know you know alot about the company since probably on payroll how come they are not coming clean?


In terms of which next-generation video game console gamers think is better, the “console war” we hear about so often is somewhat trivial. In terms of sales, however, the competition between Sony’s PlayStation 4 and Microsoft’s Xbox One shows us where the money is flowing and where it might continue to flow as time moves on. And right now, more than five months into this console generation, the competition isn’t even close.

Sony announced in mid-April that PS4 console sales to end users had topped 7 million units. The company also said more than 20.5 million copies of PlayStation 4 games had been sold at the time. Meanwhile, Microsoft’s last announcement stated that Xbox One shipments to distribution partners had surpassed 5 million units. It is unclear how many of those consoles have been purchased by end users.

Both video game consoles are incredibly successful right now, but there’s clearly no question that the PS4 has taken a big early lead in this generation. And according to noted video game industry analyst Michael Patcher of Wedbush Securities, that lead could turn into a full-blown trouncing if Sony makes one move in particular.

“If there is a $349 PS4 on the market, Microsoft has a real problem,” Patcher told GamingBolt while discussing the various directions the industry might head next year. If Sony does cut the current PS4′s price or offer a cheaper $349 model — which Patcher thinks will be the case sometime in 2015 — the Xbox One will be crushed unless Microsoft offers a cheaper version of its new console that does not include a bundled Kinect.

“[Microsoft is] gonna have to do something, and they’ll have to do it really quickly,” Patcher said. “I think that in 2015, you might see a $349 PS4, and an uncoupled Xbox One, and if you see both of those for $349, the consumer wins, and they will both sell very well. Microsoft is not looking to lose this cycle.”
 

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You really think Microsoft would give hard numbers in this day and age, they'll look weak in alot of consumers eyes to be honest. They cannot and will not tell the truth...
 

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You really think Microsoft would give hard numbers in this day and age, they'll look weak in alot of consumers eyes to be honest. They cannot and will not tell the truth...

I understand, I am just surprised, I just realized today that the 5 million was numbers shipped to retailers, the entire time I thought it was a head to head comparison and thought 5 million was on the streets...smh
 

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I understand, I am just surprised, I just realized today that the 5 million was numbers shipped to retailers, the entire time I thought it was a head to head comparison and thought 5 million was on the streets...smh

yep and what the other xbots dont realize is just because they shipped to retailers dont mean its in peoples homes. the xbox one buzz is not strong at all... Period.
 

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yep and what the other xbots dont realize is just because they shipped to retailers dont mean its in peoples homes. the xbox one buzz is not strong at all... Period.
realistically the number can be like 1.5 -2 million less in houses...it all makes sense now because they were saying it was selling about 2.5 times less than the ps4...also if sony used the numbers sold to retailers it would be close to 7 mil because damn near everything sold to stores were sold out to end users..
 

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Its the same shyt that happened last gen, just flipped. When the 360 started outselling the PS3 MS was releasing hard numbers every month and Sony started releasing "PS Family" numbers. They were lumping Vita, PS2, and PS3 numbers together. Then when the PS2 finally died off they only released shipped numbers, just like MS is doing now.

This shyt is nothing more than business. Stop stanning these companies like they give a shyt about anything other than making money and positive spin.
 

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why are they giving us distribution numbers of 5...why arent they giving raw facts...along with titanfall #'s ?

Xstans I know you know alot about the company since probably on payroll how come they are not coming clean?


In terms of which next-generation video game console gamers think is better, the “console war” we hear about so often is somewhat trivial. In terms of sales, however, the competition between Sony’s PlayStation 4 and Microsoft’s Xbox One shows us where the money is flowing and where it might continue to flow as time moves on. And right now, more than five months into this console generation, the competition isn’t even close.

Sony announced in mid-April that PS4 console sales to end users had topped 7 million units. The company also said more than 20.5 million copies of PlayStation 4 games had been sold at the time. Meanwhile, Microsoft’s last announcement stated that Xbox One shipments to distribution partners had surpassed 5 million units. It is unclear how many of those consoles have been purchased by end users.

Both video game consoles are incredibly successful right now, but there’s clearly no question that the PS4 has taken a big early lead in this generation. And according to noted video game industry analyst Michael Patcher of Wedbush Securities, that lead could turn into a full-blown trouncing if Sony makes one move in particular.

“If there is a $349 PS4 on the market, Microsoft has a real problem,” Patcher told GamingBolt while discussing the various directions the industry might head next year. If Sony does cut the current PS4′s price or offer a cheaper $349 model — which Patcher thinks will be the case sometime in 2015 — the Xbox One will be crushed unless Microsoft offers a cheaper version of its new console that does not include a bundled Kinect.

“[Microsoft is] gonna have to do something, and they’ll have to do it really quickly,” Patcher said. “I think that in 2015, you might see a $349 PS4, and an uncoupled Xbox One, and if you see both of those for $349, the consumer wins, and they will both sell very well. Microsoft is not looking to lose this cycle.”
They did, but sony stopped doing that once X360 was crushing PS3 in sales.
Then sony started grouping PS2 and PS3 sales as PS3 sales.
Are they combinging PS3 with PS4's sold now? Could you answer that question sir :mjpls:
 

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If Sony has been lying about their numbers for almost two decades now. Why would the Stan's continue to believe their numbers?

Don't answer that OP. Not trying to hear the spin.
 

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Pretty soon they will be releasing the number of xboxes made instead of xboxes sold in
 
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