If the universe eventually 'dies' - how can it stay dead forever?

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Also, how could there have been only one state of being forever before? So there is a span of infinite time before and after the universe is 'alive.' How can you arrive to a point in time when there is an infinite past? Does a period of time (alive) even exist if before and after that period is an opposite state (death) that spans infinitely?

Same as 'present' time does not exist. Is the universe being alive, 'present' and therefore also doesn't exist?
 
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We don't have the answers yet breh. There is a video on youtube I saw a while back that talked about the differing views among scientists about the true nature of our universe. Some think there are or have been multiple universes, and that the birth/death of a universe is similar to what we expect of stars for instance. So that eventually as all of the stars die out and all that's left is light and radiation/heat from the remnants of dying stars, which also eventually degrades into i guess nothingngess? Others think we are just in the middle of a cyclical pattern whereby the universe expands (big bang etc), and eventually you have a black hole or maybe multiple blackholes which bring everything in the universe back into singularity, then another big bang.
 

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Time might not go infinitely far back :manny: there might be a point where there just is no "before"

The best science right now says that if you go back far enough (about 13.7 billion years) everything in the visible universe was compressed into an extremely tiny volume and has been expanding since. You can't go back any further than that with current science, eventually you hit a point where known physics breaks down.
 

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Time might not go infinitely far back :manny: there might be a point where there just is no "before"

The best science right now says that if you go back far enough (about 13.7 billion years) everything in the visible universe was compressed into an extremely tiny volume and has been expanding since. You can't go back any further than that with current science, eventually you hit a point where known physics breaks down.
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Time isn't linear.
Taking relativity into consideration and how gravity affects spacetime, there has to be a way that time is multidimensional.

There has to be a point or points where beginning and end are the same.

I've heard that the universe is shaped like a loop many times, perhaps attributed to this theory.
 

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Also, how could there have been only one state of being forever before? So there is a span of infinite time before and after the universe is 'alive.' How can you arrive to a point in time when there is an infinite past? Does a period of time (alive) even exist if before and after that period is an opposite state (death) that spans infinitely?

Same as 'present' time does not exist. Is the universe being alive, 'present' and therefore also doesn't exist?
i suppose if we were higher dimensional beings, we could access all the different chronologies and even parallels of the universe at will, which would make this line of questioning obsolete. maybe we arent meant to answer these questions with our way of perceiving things linearly
 

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What is there to say?

The imaginations of scientists for centuries are quick to shoot down intelligent design yet has yet to be able to explain how a universe worth of compressed matter just decided to explode into being one day. Unaided, not created, with a fantastically low mathematical probability of the universe, especially our place in it, arranging in such a delicate manner to sustain life. :russell:

I consider it centuries worth of juelzing from athiests too proud to accept the truth:myman:
 

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As @GnauzBookOfRhymes the two most popular theories are the "Big Chill" (Also known as "Heat Death") and the other is a cyclical nature to the universe expanding and contracting which is the "Big Crunch" theory. Based on my layman understanding of which theory is most popular, it seems the heat death option seems the most likely based on current evidence.

But, fukk who knows. The heat death theory is a depressing one to think about. Also, time is a measurement relative to some sort of change somewhere in the Universe. In our case, we measure time against the rotation of the earth and our orbit around the sun. We measure it also as changes of states such as movement (i.e. miles per hour). Something that makes one point in time distinct from another point of time.

However, in a heat death scenario, energy conversions cease to exist. So, I guess, in this case, time also ceases to exist? There is nothing to measure time against. Everything is "dead" and at a complete standstill.

Anyways, you made me google "What is time?" and I found this article where this guy tries to define it.
What Is Time? One Physicist Hunts for the Ultimate Theory
 
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