PhonZhi
Veteran
^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is producing
If You Dont Know the Difference Between "Producing" & "Beatmaking" Watch This Vid
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is producing
Producing a song or beat is telling a person that can professionally play instruments how and when they should play it to get the sound they think is right.
A beat maker can produce a beat too if the final product have good arrangements. Most likely when people get professional beats though they have them tracked out and rearrange a few sounds to fit the song more. That’s when the “co produced” part comes in.
A beat maker can produce a beat too if the final product have good arrangements. Most likely when people get professional beats though they have them tracked out and rearrange a few sounds to fit the song more. That’s when the “co produced” part comes in.
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
I hate this discussion. Seems like older producers from the 90's when their value dropped created this narrative.
The game has changed and someone can e-mail someone a beat the produced.
That doesn't mean that the person who made the beat can't do what was done in the video.
They just don't have the opportunity to since the game has changed and it's not necessary for the person who produced the beat to be in the same room as the artist, when the song is being made.
I would assume anyone who makes beats has some sort of idea(s) about what they want done to the beat.
Hence the "such and such" type beats being made. They know that such and such artist would fit their beats.
People love saying what producing is in regards to people being in the studio throwing around ideas.
Yet, when it comes to the person making the beat all of a sudden they are excluded from the convo.
If they can't get credit for producing the song, can they at least get create for producing the beat?
The game has changed and someone can e-mail someone a beat the produced.
That doesn't mean that the person who made the beat can't do what was done in the video.
They just don't have the opportunity to since the game has changed and it's not necessary for the person who produced the beat to be in the same room as the artist, when the song is being made.
I would assume anyone who makes beats has some sort of idea(s) about what they want done to the beat.
Hence the "such and such" type beats being made. They know that such and such artist would fit their beats.
People love saying what producing is in regards to people being in the studio throwing around ideas.
Yet, when it comes to the person making the beat all of a sudden they are excluded from the convo.
If they can't get credit for producing the song, can they at least get create for producing the beat?
DonKnock
KPJ Gonna Save Us
This really isn’t that complicated.
If you have no direct input on how the vocals are laid then you are a beat maker.
igottabaldhead
All Star
facts breh, i hate this discussion too.
a producer is someone who takes care of the non-vocal instrumentation on a song (ie; the beat)
its nice if they want to become a songwriter and craft the choruses etc. but isnt necessary to be called a producer
producer/beatmaker, same thing. internet forums and elitist oldheads started this dumb idea of them being seperate things
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
Since the tunnel is a more technical part of thecoli, I'm gonna get philosophic on you brehs for a second. Because all that's really going on in this thread is people playing language games.
Wikipedia defines it like this: A hip hop instrumental is colloquially referred to as a beat, and its composer is referred to as a producer or beatmaker. In the studio, however, a hip hop producer also functions as a traditional record producer.
If X, then Y.
If you're a hip-hop producer, you're a producer.
It's simple logic.
All that ends up happening in these arguments, is some group points to examples from the red region and says "See, look, you're not a producer because you don't coach the vocalist
"
And some other group goes, "No the definition of producer has evolved, and you're just old"
You're both right. The average hip-hop producer doesn't do the things the classic definition of a producer does, but all the skills a hip-hop producer do possess are a subset of the group "music producer".
Vice versa, there are some producers who don't possess any hip-hop production skills that are still producers.
One example of the first type of producer, someone fully in the blue, would be a teenage bedroom producer who just makes beats and doesn't record vocals or instruments.
An example of another, someone fully in the red, would be like an old producer of Nashville country western, who can arrange old folk tunes and set-up mics, but would never know how to scratch a hook.
Meanwhile some producers may have more complete skillsets and be in both camps, like Pharrell.
So someone might be a producer with a more complete skillset, but that doesn't mean that someone who doesn't have all those skills isn't a producer.
/endrant
Wikipedia defines it like this: A hip hop instrumental is colloquially referred to as a beat, and its composer is referred to as a producer or beatmaker. In the studio, however, a hip hop producer also functions as a traditional record producer.
If X, then Y.
If you're a hip-hop producer, you're a producer.
It's simple logic.
All that ends up happening in these arguments, is some group points to examples from the red region and says "See, look, you're not a producer because you don't coach the vocalist
"And some other group goes, "No the definition of producer has evolved, and you're just old"
You're both right. The average hip-hop producer doesn't do the things the classic definition of a producer does, but all the skills a hip-hop producer do possess are a subset of the group "music producer".
Vice versa, there are some producers who don't possess any hip-hop production skills that are still producers.
One example of the first type of producer, someone fully in the blue, would be a teenage bedroom producer who just makes beats and doesn't record vocals or instruments.
An example of another, someone fully in the red, would be like an old producer of Nashville country western, who can arrange old folk tunes and set-up mics, but would never know how to scratch a hook.
Meanwhile some producers may have more complete skillsets and be in both camps, like Pharrell.
So someone might be a producer with a more complete skillset, but that doesn't mean that someone who doesn't have all those skills isn't a producer.
/endrant
