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In response to US immigration policy, Spain tells Latin American immigrants to "come to Death Row"
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Europe: Quality of Life Index by Country 2025 Mid-Year
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Can’t even lie, a CAC is a CAC.
But, when I read about how badly Spain fell the fukk off let’s me know that our CACs are a little smarter. Because how the fukk do you go from running shyt from Mexico to Argentina to begging your former colonies to come colonize you?
So one big difference is Latinos are descendants of Spanish people. That’s entirely different than people of different cultures moving to a completely foreign country
Another thing is Latinos Americans who can claim European nationality can get expedited visas and European citizenship. It’s very smart from spains point of view. They are benefiting a lot from Mexican and Venezuelan immigrants right now
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The population decreases and labor shortages for Europe were predicted decades ago. As such, each country developed and implemented plans to address them.
What couldn't reasonably be predicted were the events (wars, natural disasters, economic shifts) that would spur migration out of developing countries the past few decades. And which migration routes people would take.
Spain occupies a bit of a unique position, literally and figuratively. Literally because of where they are positioned on the map. With the unforseen mass migration movement from Africa and Western Asia, and Spain being a landing ground into Europe.
Figuratively, because they arent a major Western power whose covert actions are directly playing a hand in the modern migrant crises.
But as those things occured, Euro countries adjusted their ways of addressing the need for additions to the labor force. This latest move makes sense on paper.
To help reduce the learning and adjustment curve, you recruit migrants who speak, read, and write the national language already. Especially in a climate where their normal migration destination is blocking them.
On paper, easier to train and upskill migrants who read and speak the language. Same reason that (English speaking) Caribbean immigrants migrated and were recruited to fill labor spots in early 20th century America.
Not sure that Spain could have predicted that Mexican/Venez. migrant crises and Trump election(s) & hard turn against them would occur, so they surely couldnt and cant implement the prep classes you're suggesting. But because of the distance between Spain and Latin America, the vetting and screening process will prevent the sudden flooding of newcomers that usually heightens tension between them and the local population.
Spain offering courses to locals about how/why newcomers are coming in and what they should expect/how they should adjust would only build resentment
They should design a course for the govts of the countries they are recruiting from to host. To give the workers basic information about how they need to adapt to the new country.
Yes and Latin American CACs will vote for a dozen Trumps in their own countries, flee to the United States and proceed to vote for the same shyt they fled from. That’s arguably dumber than how American CACs move, hence the reason why American CACs look down on their Latin counterparts.
Mike Nasty
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I respectfully disagree. Your model for courses is not sustainable , and would unfortunately still be under the lazy definition for policy. Whatever short-term gains you get from that slapdash attempt to fill labor holes will be undone when the host nation rejects those immigrants.
May I use an analogy?
Immigration for the sake of filling labor is effectively a transplant. So use a healthcare analogy.
When you are transplanting an organ into a host body whose original organs have failed, you must focus on compatibility both of the host body and the foreign organ. This is similar to the two prongs of my immigration approach. In the healthcare space this means making the foreign entity as biocompatible as possible to the body. (Blood type matching, antigen matching, genetic viability, icing, chemical baths, etc).
But despite those modifications to the foreign entity being transplanted, you must have immunosuppressants administered to The Host in addition to having a biocompatible foreign member to add to the body. This is because of the host even if you have a perfect genetic match, will still notice that the transplant is different and react out of hostility.
So yes you do your absolute best to ensure the new thing is going well and does not fight the host body, but you must also ensure that the receiving entity is willing to accept it.
But despite those modifications to the foreign entity being transplanted, you must have immunosuppressants administered to The Host in addition to having a biocompatible foreign member to add to the body. This is because of the host even if you have a perfect genetic match, will still notice that the transplant is different and react out of hostility.
So yes you do your absolute best to ensure the new thing is going well and does not fight the host body, but you must also ensure that the receiving entity is willing to accept it.
So back to the immigration system. It's just like the analogy with the organ transplant into the body, if the body is not in it's absolute best state to accept the new entity it will reject it irrespective of whether the body will benefit from having the new entity. This is what we're seeing in places like Florida or Texas or even California. You were trying to fight this rejection mechanism so that the whole system can work better.
As for the resentment of courses...
immunosuppressants are damaging to the body and all bodies would prefer not having them. however, in order to make the overall new system work they are 100% completely necessary.
Yes I am aware of the new population may not 100% like the courses but they are absolutely necessary to ensure that they accept these new immigrants. My concern with your system is that if leaves host to its own devices and puts the onus for compatibility entirely on the foreign entity. there will obviously be a rejection and the body(host nation) will have no organs and it'll be perfectly happy dying without its organs.
Yes I am aware of the new population may not 100% like the courses but they are absolutely necessary to ensure that they accept these new immigrants. My concern with your system is that if leaves host to its own devices and puts the onus for compatibility entirely on the foreign entity. there will obviously be a rejection and the body(host nation) will have no organs and it'll be perfectly happy dying without its organs.
It is a completely false assumption that just sharing a language is enough to overcome the cultural gaps . Back to the organ analogy, it's the assumption that you can just transplant an organ from a family member and it magically works without you having to do any immunosuppressant drugs or conditioning of the incoming organ.
May I point you towards the race riots when England fallaciously assumed the windrush generation would easily plug in gaps in their labor force because they spoke English and were former colonies?
Furthermore your course for foreigners is much shorter than the multi-year process I'm envisioning. it's implementation is too lazy. (Once again by lazy I mean, and unwillingness to invest time money and resources and making the whole system work.)
With this point, I speak from personal experience. I am a language nerd and a polygot (5languages, not counting my birth one) . I've had the experience of gaining near fluency in foreign languages, but even after getting to this point I still needed multiple years to understand the cultural nuances of those populations. Ideally even imersion. I'm painfully aware of how ineffecientive inculturation is without many years dedicated to it.
The point of me suggesting the foreign facility ran entirely by the host nation (not the donor nation) is it would provide this necessary immersion by host members in their complex cultural norms. and it would provide the necessary time.
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Those plans are insufficient, and they have failed. The caveat is that they were uunsustainable. The resurgence of a right wing Europe and right wing north America is proof that something was critically wrong. We're watching in real time Nations destroying any labor gains they would have gotten from previous immigration.
the asylum and refugee global system had a horrible loophole. Which is why I'm saying that whole problem will fix itself once you institute immediate and complete rejection for every single immigrant who applies for asylum who did not go to the nation's near them. This prevents the influx and overwhelming of immigration systems.
Don't get me wrong. immigrants can still go to the name brand first world Nations. But they should only be eligible to do so based on the employment pointbased system like we see in Japan or Australia or even Canada. The role of refugee and asylee process is humanitarian, not the creation of indentured servants or mass immigration.
Using the first safe country doctrine fixes this. It localizes the humanitarian responsibility to each region and allows the separate and completely unrelated issue of the labor crisis to be addressed directly through the point system. This decoupling is a sustainable way to fix the labor issue.
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Its funny You mentioned the podcast thing. I've been told I should be doing podcasts and voice-overs since I was like in middle school. I've written about it on the coli before but I remember one day in 6th grade my voice just randomly changed. I swear I thought I had a cold, But it never went away.
I'd actually considered going The voiceover route earlier in my life, But ultimately decided against it because of the intense competition in voice acting. I compare your speaking voice to other physical traits like your height in basketball, or a good singing voice , a woman's body shape in modeling .. In the sense that there are millions of other equally qualified people. I was horrified when I found out that the only way to stand out in the industry was to go the casting couch .
So I never took it seriously. I chose the more secure tech route instead.
But I find it ironic as a hell that tech eventually destroyed the voice-over industry. You should check out the voice-over reddit pages. AI has those redditere running around like chickens with their heads cut off, Because their job security died .
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