In your opinion, why do so few people believe they can achieve financial freedom?

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It's a weird question.

Why?

Because what is "financial freedom?" In theory a person could have $1.5 million in their account with no job and be "free" if they're willing to live an exceedingly frugal existence.

That same person could have $150 million, with a lucrative gig and NOT be free because they buy yachts, Bugatti's, flying IG/OnlyFans broads 1st class to their bachelor pad, have several baby momma's/ex-wives etc.

The desire for money is what keeps our society going. It's what motivates men to innovate and create. It's what motivates women to study hard and get that extra post grad degree. Take away the desire and society stagnates. The powerful and wealthy can't sell you shyt, corporate America can't control you etc.

The want for financial freedom makes most people miserable unless they've already achieved it or are on the right path to achieving it.

But again......if everyone could somehow be rich, no one would be rich because the cost of everything would skyrocket. The system is designed to have some lucky business people that are winners while the majority of the "winners" were born into privilege and have connections at the best schools, companies etc.

America is designed to encourage us all to WANT to be part of the "winners" and it's the fuel that keeps us moving.
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how many statistically speaking can reach "financial freedom"? its not that many. if everyone tomorrow was like im gonna grind 100 hr a week etc etc be financially responsible. they wouldn't all be rich, it would be literally impossible thats not how our system works. so actually those people are 100 percent right if they are thinking rationally. but if you wanna believe in fairy tale dreams these online gurus sell you then cool. theyve done studies and network (aka who you know ) and ruthlessness were the two biggest correlations to success. basically privileged to know someone that can hook you up and how much of a ruthless scumbag you can be is what makes you successful, whatever that means
 

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Debt's a big part of it. Keeping up with the Jones, materialism, and rampant consumerism keeps most people living paycheck to paycheck. If not that, then it's starting a career saddled with student debt, or having medical debt.
if you had no debt you Still need a paycheck to live

no one has defined what financial freedom is


the wealthiest people in this country live off of debt
 

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The average person's idea of financial freedom -- having enough money to blow/make irresponsible choices and not feel the monetary consequence -- is not realistic for the majority, nor is it the right definition for financial freedom.

There's a lot of other valid takes on the question at hand in this thread as well.
 

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The average person's idea of financial freedom -- having enough money to blow/make irresponsible choices and not feel the monetary consequence -- is not realistic for the majority, nor is it the right definition for financial freedom.

There's a lot of other valid takes on the question at hand in this thread as well.
Actual financial freedom comes from being born rich 1st and foremost

And if you’re not born rich, there’s a small number of people that had a God given ability that they were able to commoditize
 
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The average person's idea of financial freedom -- having enough money to blow/make irresponsible choices and not feel the monetary consequence -- is not realistic for the majority, nor is it the right definition for financial freedom.

There's a lot of other valid takes on the question at hand in this thread as well.
Yeah to me freedom means you can live an upper middle class existence (equivalent of a person making, say $200k to $300k/year) without having to work.

You're not buying Lambos and $100k diamond chains but you can take multiple vacations every year.....have no debt etc. You can't be dumb but you don't have to penny pinch either.

The folks that achieve something like that are usually workaholics that started a biz or have some high profile gig where even though they're financially free, they love their job so much they CAN'T quit. That's the irony of it. The people who often are the best off financially and can retire are the ones who happily grind 80 hr weeks and don't want to retire...and probably go stir crazy if they DO retire.
 

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Because of limiting beliefs and lack of foresight/planning.

I think the first step to financial freedom is to free yourself of shame and judgement of others.

Another thing people can do is solve for the problem backwards.
 

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Because of limiting beliefs and lack of foresight/planning.

I think the first step to financial freedom is to free yourself of shame and judgement of others.

Another thing people can do is solve for the problem backwards.
a lack of discipline, sacrifice and effectively maximizing the hard work that you do put in
 

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We start folks at 60k with little or no experience. Still get the “I don’t want to work weekends” “can’t work nights” nonsense. Some folks just have no ambition
Who is “we” breh? :leon:
 

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This society is literally set up to encourage you to spend all of the money you have from the minute you’re born. We can say people are undisciplined but to be real, for the most part, we are TRAINED consumers, and trained by people who know what they’re doing as well.
 
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