#Inherently: 25...50 years from now, how widespread will racism in Europe/North America be?

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We can talk about how whites are "inherently evil" or whatever and for the most part its true. They cant help it and neither can we. There are too many psychological forces that cause people in positions of power or the majority to demean those below them. One could argue we might be just as bad if we were in their positions but history proves otherwise. For insight consider the following topics/theories:

Ingroup Favourtism
Relative Deprivation Theory
Social Identity Theory
Aversive Racism
Cognitive Dissonance


etc. I'll stop there. That being said, the effects that we see today are the result of ancient values; values ingrained in the old senile white folks from the Civil Rights era and shyt. These are your Donald Sterlings. These are people that if you are surprised to see racism from you should be more disgusted at yourself than of them. That being said the clock is ticking. Many of these old heads will soon see their demise and lay six feet under. It's likely that their opinions and values will be passed down to generations but what about the average folk that surrounds you and I? What about that kid you used to trade snacks with at lunch elementary school, that teen you used to complete projects with in high school, that adult you used to mack girls at keggars with in college? Are the forces of negative interdependence and ingroup favouritism that effective that the colors of our skin will trump real life experiences and reinforce many of the biases and prejudices we live with? Or will we one day live in a North America where race isn't that all important with mulatto kids, CEOs and hockey players running this shyt?

What yall think...this is serious shyt.
 

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race relations are terrible as they've ever been and I don't expect them to improve as less racism doesn't benefit the system of white supremacy.

it appears that things are better, and to some degree they are and only because laws prevent racists from doing some of the things they would have done in the past with impunity. since they have to contain their racism in "post-racial" America, whenever a white person is caught being racist, the rest of the group cheer the racist on or silently support them with money and resources.
 

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We can talk about how whites are "inherently evil" or whatever and for the most part its true. They cant help it and neither can we. There are too many psychological forces that cause people in positions of power or the majority to demean those below them. One could argue we might be just as bad if we were in their positions but history proves otherwise. For insight consider the following topics/theories:

Ingroup Favourtism
Relative Deprivation Theory
Social Identity Theory
Aversive Racism
Cognitive Dissonance


etc. I'll stop there. That being said, the effects that we see today are the result of ancient values; values ingrained in the old senile white folks from the Civil Rights era and shyt. These are your Donald Sterlings. These are people that if you are surprised to see racism from you should be more disgusted at yourself than of them. That being said the clock is ticking. Many of these old heads will soon see their demise and lay six feet under. It's likely that their opinions and values will be passed down to generations but what about the average folk that surrounds you and I? What about that kid you used to trade snacks with at lunch elementary school, that teen you used to complete projects with in high school, that adult you used to mack girls at keggars with in college? Are the forces of negative interdependence and ingroup favouritism that effective that the colors of our skin will trump real life experiences and reinforce many of the biases and prejudices we live with? Or will we one day live in a North America where race isn't that all important with mulatto kids, CEOs and hockey players running this shyt?

What yall think...this is serious shyt.
It's funny what you're saying about if the roles were reversed that we would be just as bad because it's eye opening watching the coli members fall into the same train of thought as white bigots more and more frequently.
Of course it's in a reactionary sense as we're not the dominant society or the ones with the history of impressions bit it really says something about this inherently movement that I indirectly started when you can see the way they think developing even here from the use of cac as a derogatory term to refer to whites and the justifications of its use that are commonly spouted or the frequent attempts at manipulating history or biology in order to make blacks come across as the superior race along with the use of mental gymnastics that come with it and then use of stand alone statistics to support this side of the argument and the confirmation bias that's commonly exhibited when an article about white people comes up and the refusal to try and look at things from the perspective of a white person and see how those thoughts may have come across and instead likening it to an inherent biological excuse like white bigots do.
 

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I think things are getting better. The US is becoming more liberal. Things just look worse because of how the media plays up attn grabbing stories.

Racism will never die, and there are still a lot of systematic issues to fix, but overall I think things are a lot better today than they were before. We just have to position ourselves better to take advantage of the changing tides.
 

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It's funny what you're saying about if the roles were reversed that we would be just as bad because it's eye opening watching the coli members fall into the same train of thought as white bigots more and more frequently.
Of course it's in a reactionary sense as we're not the dominant society or the ones with the history of impressions bit it really says something about this inherently movement that I indirectly started when you can see the way they think developing even here from the use of cac as a derogatory term to refer to whites and the justifications of its use that are commonly spouted or the frequent attempts at manipulating history or biology in order to make blacks come across as the superior race along with the use of mental gymnastics that come with it and then use of stand alone statistics to support this side of the argument and the confirmation bias that's commonly exhibited when an article about white people comes up and the refusal to try and look at things from the perspective of a white person and see how those thoughts may have come across and instead likening it to an inherent biological excuse.

why do white people excuse their behaviors by using biological excuses (mental illness)?

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I think things are getting better. The US is becoming more liberal. Things just look worse because of how the media plays up attn grabbing stories.

Racism will never die, and there are still a lot of systematic issues to fix, but overall I think things are a lot better today than they were before. We just have to position ourselves better to take advantage of the changing tides.

Only on the coli are race relations worse than they've ever been, never mind the fact that the government used to enforce slavery. To say there is still animosity and prejudice is one thing, to say that race relations are just as bad for us as they were in the past is disrespectful to the plight our ancestors faced :ld:
 
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over here its getting better imo, more mingling between christians & muslims, more interracial/interfaithial? marriages. the old thinking is still here and i also am afraid of things getting worse but i will stay faithful. there is still a lot to do though, thanks to religion, thanks to politics, thanks to the benefactors of divide.

it is all very fragile though and could easily be shattered
 
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