Introspection: are liberals being hypocrites

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Just a question, as a moderate it does seem like liberals are being hypocrites in condoning violent behavior towards conservatives who don't share the same ideaology about the certain aspects of American law.

Is this some liberals are happy with or do you guys feel conservatives are playing up the victim role and are potentially creating issues?
 

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are you referring to the berkeley event? where some cacs got into a few fights, and looting.

you do realise at the milo event in Seattle, his supporters shot someone in the stomach :sas1:


I'm talking about everything not just the most recent event . But we can focus on this past event , again is it hypocritical or nah? Or is liberal acceptance of different views stop at political differences?

Just want someone to give some thought on this paradox and give a clear logical explanation
 

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strictly speaking it is hypocritical. However if you compare them in reality, the right preach more violence, act more violent, and the violence they commit is worse in the name of their cause.

Also, liberalism breaks down the extremes. i.e. free speech is a great ideal, you get varied opinions, more information, and facts etc to form an informed opinion -fine. But it breaks down when the person abuses the system to preach lies, hate and trolling to cause dissent. In that case is free speech the right thing? Is allowing people to spew this stuff morally right? At what point is it ok to counteract with violence, someone who is going to incite hatred and violence?
 

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strictly speaking it is hypocritical. However if you compare them in reality, the right preach more violence, act more violent, and the violence they commit is worse in the name of their cause.

Also, liberalism breaks down the extremes. i.e. free speech is a great ideal, you get varied opinions, more information, and facts etc to form an informed opinion -fine. But it breaks down when the person abuses the system to preach lies, hate and trolling to cause dissent. In that case is free speech the right thing? Is allowing people to spew this stuff morally right? At what point is it ok to counteract with violence, someone who is going to incite hatred and violence?
By nature social conservatives are rigid and I would expect them to incite hateful speech, rhetoric, and acts. Social liberalism shouldnt be doing the same, just my opinion but we are in agreement on the principle of your answer
 

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By nature social conservatives are rigid and I would expect them to incite hateful speech, rhetoric, and acts. Social liberalism shouldnt be doing the same, just my opinion but we are in agreement on the principle of your answer
the problem the left have is that they cant sit back and do nothing :hula:but if they respond in violence they vindicate the right and their propaganda. e.g. milo's book is now #5 from #650 in 1 day on amazon and it hasnt been released yet.

Debating, facts, marching clearly won't work.
 

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So have we forgotten how trump was inciting violence at his rallies

Or the people that physically and verbally assaulted minority groups the couple days after his victory?

And have the nerve to say 'look at those violent leftists ":mjpls:

When you denounce people, simply on their being/identity , and not their views, all logic goes out the window and you get violence eventually :yeshrug:
 
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the problem the left have is that they cant sit back and do nothing :hula:but if they respond in violence they vindicate the right and their propaganda. e.g. milo's book is now #5 from #650 in 1 day on amazon and it hasnt been released yet.

Debating, facts, marching clearly won't work.
I say they might as well do something :manny:

Bc even if they don't they'll still talk shyt about them.

Case in point, every time black folks protest peacefully against police brutality the conservatives still talk shyt and throw in a "what about chicago"

But when it gets violent, then they scream bloody mary, throw around the n word like it's jim crow, then ask in the same breath "why can't they forgive and be like martin Luther king?":rudy:

Time for "the left" to grow some bawls :camby:
 
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Just a question, as a moderate it does seem like liberals are being hypocrites in condoning violent behavior towards conservatives who don't share the same ideaology about the certain aspects of American law.

Is this some liberals are happy with or do you guys feel conservatives are playing up the victim role and are potentially creating issues?
You are making the mistake that most people make by thinking everyone in America fits into the box of "liberal" or "conservative"

The reality is that the nation's population is also filled with socialists, communists, anarchists, fascists,Black Nationalists, nielists, fundamentalists, isolationists, evangelicals, libertarians etc, etc...

"Liberals" ain't doing shyt in Berkeley. It's mostly anarchists..

A lot of Americans don't fukk with this administration. Everyone that opposes Trump and his minions isn't a Liberal. So I don't know why liberals have to answer for everything that goes left the next 4 years..
 

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One side is preaching hate and intolerance

The other side is intolerant of hatred and intolerance

I'm gonna roll with the latter and when the time comes where it truly is us against them (for the millionth time in this country's history) I hope this time around we realize that there is no reasoning with stupid no matter how much common ground can be found with respect to religion or other aspects that have been used to coddle and pacify.
 
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