irrefutable GOAT stat

[FabTrey]

Wouldnt be surprised if his passes have the lowest yards in the air thrown per attempt out of all mentioned.

The Patriots passing game is an extension of a glorified handoff.

flat out debunked.

Passing Stats | NFL Next Gen Stats

it's called average completed air yards. brady is well above average


and brady leads his receivers, so this air yard theory is cute, but it's not a good stat.

 

[NYC Rebel]

flat out debunked.

Passing Stats | NFL Next Gen Stats

it's called average completed air yards. brady is well above average


and brady leads his receivers, so this air yard theory is cute, but it's not a good stat.

Where did you debunk me saying what I said comparing those 50+ throws to other qbs?

Where are the comparisons to the names mentioned?

You didnt even address my point.

My LORD

 

[FabTrey]

It's because the Patriots would throw that often by design, and a greater proportion of his 50+ passes were dink and dunk passes, as opposed to "we're down by a lot and need to pass against defenses that know we're going to pass"

stats without context can be deceiving.

this great dink and dunk system is yet to be replicated.


and dink and dunk can only happen if you are a presnap GAWD like brady. brady takes what the defense gives him.

 

[FabTrey]

Where did you debunk me saying what I said comparing those 50+ throws to other qbs?

Where are the comparisons?

there are stats for air yards and CAY and brady isn't at the bottom of the pile. far from it. but there is no single game stats for these tho.


but the point is that brady's done this 28 times when a great thrower like rodgers only did 4 times.


and the link i posted has all the nice stats intended air yards, completed air yards. and there are actual air yards i forget which website and brady is almost always league average. if he was all dink and dunk then he should be ranked at the bottom but that's not the case. not at all. i remember 1 year he actual was like top 6-7 in air yards


but the real stat is yard per attempt. and it doesn't really matter if the throw was 15 yard and WR ran another 15 yard for 30 yard gain. 30 yard gain is 30 yard gain. great QBs know how to lead WRs. and it all averages out. brady's 7.5 is well above average

 

[NYC Rebel]

there are stats for air yards and CAY and brady isn't at the bottom of the pile. far from it.

I said 50 + throws and the record of other qbs on the list. You didn't debunk anything and pivoted to something else.

This is a trash discussion because you fake respond to things other than what's said.

 

[FabTrey]

I said 50 + throws and the record of other qbs on the list. You didn't debunk anything and pivoted to something else.

This is a trash discussion because you fake respond to things other than what's said.

stop being so butthurt


and i debunked brady ain't just dink and dunk hand off guy. that's like indirectly refuting what you are implying


all this is about how brady throws more 50+ then anybody else in the history of the football while he wins most of them.



and i'm sure there's a breakdowns on each games out there, but no way people can go 10-15 years back to dissect every damn throws.

and if you think about it most 50+ passes don't go past 500+ yards and basically it means there's alot of short throws basically. because if it wasn't we would've seen so many 500+ yard performances.

but just go rewatch seahawks and falcons SB. that's a good indication how those 50 passes happened. it's a mixture of alot of throws basically. and that's how brady plays pretty much all the time.




nothing is wrong with dinks and dunks, but

 

[FabTrey]

and pats were tied or behind in the second half of 24 of the 28 games Brady threw 50+ passes in. so it really wasn't by the design. brady had to throw that many times so they can WIN


The 8 Playoff games Brady threw 50+ passes in

1.
2016 SB trailed Atlanta by 19 in the 4th quarter. Won 34-28 OT
3 GOAT DRIVES

2.
2015 AFCG trailed Denver by 8 in the 4th quarter. Lost 20-18
Broncos hit Brady more times than any quarterback has been hit all year
Broncos hit Brady more times than any quarterback has been hit all year

3.
2014 SB trailed Seattle by 10 in the 4th quarter. Won 28-24
against the legion of boom

4.
2014 Div trailed Baltimore by 3 in the 4th quarter. Won 35-31
trailed by 14 twice in 3rd Q

5.
2012 AFCG trailed Baltimore by 15 in the 4th quarter. Lost 28-13

6.
2006 Div trailed SD by 8 in the 4th quarter. Won 24-21

7.
2001 Div trailed Oakland by 10 in the 4th quarter. Won 16-13 OT
IN SNOW WHEN HE WAS BASICALLY A ROOKIE

8.
2017 Div trailed Tennessee by 7 in the 2nd quarter. Won 35-7






i'll break down those passes by passes and average it out later when i have time.
this could be the greatest statistical dominance by 1 player possibly in the history of sports

 

[NYC Rebel]

stop being so butthurt


and i debunked brady ain't just dink and dunk hand off guy.

Exactly. You werent responding to what I posted.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It's because the Patriots would throw that often by design, and a greater proportion of his 50+ passes were dink and dunk passes, as opposed to "we're down by a lot and need to pass against defenses that know we're going to pass"

stats without context can be deceiving.

This exactly.

It was just a different offense. You're not the GOAT solely because you got some of your results in a different manner.

 

[mr x]

Crazy stat

 

[FabTrey]

This exactly.

It was just a different offense. You're not the GOAT solely because you got some of your results in a different manner.

it could also mean pats just rely heavily on brady to move the chains breh. time after time you see brady throws on 3rd and 1. if i have to guess nobody throws more on 3rd and short.

is that by design or is it because pats trust brady to convert the short yardage? and pats normally don't have a dominant running game.

and just look at the playoff results i posted. normally 50 time throwing happens when pats are losing. that's when they have no choice but to throw. passing also saves the clock which is a factor you can't ignore in a pressured game when you are down.


and it doesn't matter if pats offense is different or not. the main point is that brady WINS while others LOSES.

and it's a copycat league yet it can't be replicated. why? because they ain't got no brady.

 

[FabTrey]

Exactly. You werent responding to what I posted.

ain't nobody can answer to your dumb asss question


but you can reasonably assume that pats don't make brady throw 50 times because they want to. they do it because they have to in order to win. it saves the clock, it moves the chain, and it's no brainer. those playoff examples is a good barometer why those 50 throws happened.