Is CyHi The Prynce hating?

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How bout he use that pen and help the street nikkas rap better. All these complaints like you literally have the power in your hands. I just don’t get crying about something you can change. Give these slow ass rappers some homework to do for a few months. Actually help them GET BETTER at their craft. Was that ever a role in Hip Hop? Someone who writes with you to level yourself up?
 

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Why does someone have to be street? Who cares? That dumb ass mentally it’s why black ppl remain at the bottom of the totem pole
 

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The thing with rapping is that it's not very hard. You just gotta understand language and wordplay. These lyrical miracle rappers thought they were doing something unbelievable when they really weren't. Any educated school kid can learn how to become a good rapper very easily.

But this is where you see the difference between being a great "rapper" and being a great writer. Guys like Cyhi. Lupe. Mickey factz. These rap dweebs have tried to fool the public into thinking the lyrical miracle shyt was the standard of great lyricism when the truth is that style of writing is very amateurish. The true barometer of a great lyricist is a guy who can not only rap great but can also write great songs.

These guys can come up with metaphors and triple entendres til they're blue in the face. But ask em to write a halfway decent song and you'll see how limited they really are with the pen. Can't really call yourself a great lyricist when the only thing you're great at is clever wordplay. If your writing can't captivate the listeners then you're not a great lyricist. Period. I guarantee you "today was a good day" was a hundred times harder for cube to write than it was for Lupe to write "mural".

These rap nerds are just bitter because they realize the public figured out their whole style was a facade from the beginning. That's why these straight A students can replicate what they do with relative ease. But those straight A students could still never write a "Juicy". Or a "keep ya head up". That's not just great rapping. It's great writing. Great imagination. Not just using words in witty ways. But using words in a way that can pierce the psyche of the listener. That's real elite lyricism.
Superstar still gets played at major events to this day :mjtf: not all lyricists were created equal, Lupe literally has more mainstream success than the vast majority of lyrical rappers.

nikka had stuff for rap nerds/street nikkas AND had records that hit mainstream, Hov and Nas the only other rappers who can say they did the same. There's no reason for the rap industry to open their doors to him if they felt like his raps weren't "captivating" so what are you talking about? All those people just gave this random nikka from Chicago a pass to make millions for no reason?

If you gonna take the time to type out 4 paragraphs atleast take the time to think about the examples you're tryna use to prove your point, otherwise it's just gonna come off like a hate rant instead of a genuine observation


Sounds more like you've had extremely annoying encounters with nikkas fanbases so you directed your anger at the artist themselves :beli: which is usually the case when you nikkas complain about artists on here. Lupe hangs with more street rappers than he does lyrical miracle rappers and he's put these nikkas on his albums, he's not the guy looking down on street artist or people who rap in a simplified format, not forcing them to rap like him either



hypothesizing about who had the harder time writing a song sounds like you never been around artists or even looked at a documentary of them making stuff, there's 0 way to tell how difficult a song was by just listening to the end result :dahell: and it's a silly conversation, creativity doesn't work like that AT ALL. nikkas might make 20 versions of the same verse before it comes out and you'd never know unless they told you, sometimes the whole song just comes out in one take, no one does it the same exact way for every song. And it doesn't make a song better or worse if you knew how easy or difficult it may have been.

nikka only wrote the first 16-20 bars of Mural, everything else was punched in freestyles, there's no way to notice that if you're already in the mindset of Lupe is a try-hard, you gonna make up a reality where he wrote 50 pages filled with diagrams and references and tell yourself that's how it went down








Imagine saying :aicmon: is fraudulent because he used more dribble moves than Jordan, you dont HAVE to do things in a simple fashion if it's boring or unnatural to you, it's all preference and what excited you most as a creator in the moment

You a grown man completely oblivious to how preferences work in art :aicmon: upset because something you aren't a fan of exists, you AND cyhi sound goofy as hell being mad that people aren't making art they way you want them too

How about you go get good at rapping so you dont have to listen to anyone else making shyt you don't wanna hear :unimpressed:
 

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This dude is bugging and is obviously speaking from bias and using extreme examples

Both Cube and Lupe are in my top 10 and Cube has spoken about how during his writing process it didn’t take long for him to write. Same with Lupe.

Crazy he used Lu for an example when from 2006-2012

Albums

Food and Liquor ~ Gold
The Cool ~ Platinum
Lasers ~ Platinum
Food and Liquor 2 ~ Gold

Singles

Kick Push ~ Platinum
Daydreaming ~ Platinum
Superstar ~ 3x platinum
Hip hop saved my life ~ gold
The show goes on ~ 7x platinum
Worda I never said ~ gold
Outta my head ~ gold
Battle scars ~ 3x platinum
Old school love ~ gold

Cyhi was just hating nothing more nothing less

Facts
 

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Don’t tell this fool that college dropouts include people like Kurt Walker, Russell Simmons, Suge Knight, Ice Cube, Common, Gang Starr, E40 and the list goes on. And of course, his boss and the man that put him on made being a college drought his whole personality.

Other examples is that his album had Travis Scott, 2 chainz and schoolboy q on there, all went to college. 2 of them from the hood too and got involved in negative stuff.


I hate when dudes one day are all pro black/anti negativity. Then next day wanna drop comments giving the most ignorant rappers in the game
 
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This dude is bugging and is obviously speaking from bias and using extreme examples

Both Cube and Lupe are in my top 10 and Cube has spoken about how during his writing process it didn’t take long for him to write. Same with Lupe.

Crazy he used Lu for an example when from 2006-2012

Albums

Food and Liquor ~ Gold
The Cool ~ Platinum
Lasers ~ Platinum
Food and Liquor 2 ~ Gold

Singles

Kick Push ~ Platinum
Daydreaming ~ Platinum
Superstar ~ 3x platinum
Hip hop saved my life ~ gold
The show goes on ~ 7x platinum
Worda I never said ~ gold
Outta my head ~ gold
Battle scars ~ 3x platinum
Old school love ~ gold

Cyhi was just hating nothing more nothing less
Superstar literally playing right now at the stadium for all star weekend :mjlol: nikkas be wildly disrespectful to lupe because the other lyrical nikkas couldn't pull off what he did in that short amount of time, you'd think that would earn him props but people just end up downplaying what he did
 
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nikka had stuff for rap nerds/street nikkas AND had records that hit mainstream, Hov and Nas the only other rappers who can say they did the same.

I'm sorry but this is just absolutely absurd. When has Lupe EVER had any motion in the streets?....his music has always catered strictly to the nerds. Comparing him to Jay and Nas in that sense is absolutely insane. This is why some of you lupe stans sound so crazy sometimes. You really overrate the hell out of his legacy. To even put him in the same breath as Nas and Jay is ludicrous :mjlol: .....Lupe always wanted badly to have some street appeal but was never able to achieve it.

Superstar and Kick Push were the two best songs Lupe has written as far as mass appeal goes. He's had more success than most lyrical rappers but overall he's had far more failures. He tried plenty of times to write mainstream hits but always missed the mark. Eventually he just gave up and leaned into nerdy try hard raps because that's where he found comfort. Then he eventually turned bitter and started lashing out at guys who achieved more success than him. Refusing to accept that these guys were just flat out BETTER writers than he ever was. And this is ultimately why he never reached the heights that he could have. Because he ran out of juice and turned into a bitter old man.

Which comes back to my main point. It's WAY harder to write songs like "juicy". Or "today was a good day". Or "h to the izzo". Then it is to write a mural. And Lupe's career proves that. He had a few greatly written songs but he quickly ran out of ideas and fell off the map. He can write a mural 100 times over. But he could never write a "Not like us". It's just the simple facts. If you believe he's a great lyricist that's awesome. But he's never in his life been the BEST lyricist. And in no way shape or form should he ever be considered in the same writing league as guys like Jay. Nas. Big. Kendrick. Cube. Etc.
 
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