Is Dr Dre one of the most overrated producers of all time?
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David_TheMan
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Yes.
Dre is a engineer not a music producer.
Dre is a engineer not a music producer.
Abstract83
Superstar
Look up Chris The Glove Taylor
Dude produced a lot of Dre shyt. Still a big fan of Dr. DRE but Chris did majority of his shyt. Like someone said Dre is more of an engineer.
Dude produced a lot of Dre shyt. Still a big fan of Dr. DRE but Chris did majority of his shyt. Like someone said Dre is more of an engineer.
TheDarceKnight
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I have never heard a singe person in my life ever think Dr. Dre produced this
Classic beat and classic song though
vdfebduderocks
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Gotta differentiate producers and beat makers here.
Producers are beat makers by default, but they're steering the ship. They have the vision. Not all beat makers are good producers because they lack the overall vision of the song.
Like if you're simply sending beats to artists and having them do what they do, you're just a beat maker. If you're in the studio with the artist and guiding the vision to the beat and all of that, you're doing more than betaking. You're producing.
The best producers are never the best beat makers. Primo is a legend, but he hasn't really produced a full fledge album for any artist in some time. Still doesn't take away what he did.
Dre and Kanye are one of one in that respect.
Producers are beat makers by default, but they're steering the ship. They have the vision. Not all beat makers are good producers because they lack the overall vision of the song.
Like if you're simply sending beats to artists and having them do what they do, you're just a beat maker. If you're in the studio with the artist and guiding the vision to the beat and all of that, you're doing more than betaking. You're producing.
The best producers are never the best beat makers. Primo is a legend, but he hasn't really produced a full fledge album for any artist in some time. Still doesn't take away what he did.
Dre and Kanye are one of one in that respect.
BK The Great
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I deadass rather listen to shyt like this over Dre in 2025. I can listen to these beats without words too. This dude got countless shyt that’s actually worthy of a listen. I might even make a thread on his stuff.
Deadman187
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Daz has solo hits
TheDarceKnight
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Yeah, I agree with this. If someone told me Dre was overrated as a pure beatmaker (after 2001) I wouldn't argue too much. But as a producer, he isn't overrated at all.
Dre in the 90's as a beatmaker is not overrated, but a lot of his beats in the mid 00's and especially in the late 00's and 10's aren't all that crazy.
Toe Jay Simpson
Searchin’
Dre is an actual producer. He hasn’t been a beat maker since the early 90s, that’s why his sound is all over the place like that. You still gotta give dude credit for stuff like “Turn off the Lights, Dre Day. I think he got bored with himself to be honest with you.
You bring Dre the skeleton and he makes it better, that’s “all” he does. Dre is not creating stuff from scratch like Premo or Quik.
You bring Dre the skeleton and he makes it better, that’s “all” he does. Dre is not creating stuff from scratch like Premo or Quik.
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vdfebduderocks
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yep - I think Dre really exhausted all of his beats for a while after that Relapse album lol. Outside of that, it was just the Compton joint he co-produced, the Marsha album last year, and the Missionary album last year.
Not sure what he did from an engineering perspective since then, except that I think he mixed GKMC and helped pave the way for Ali to mix most of Kendrick's albums afterwards.
M4T
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Dre did In da club by himself from what I know, which is not that complicated of a beat,but one of a kind and arguably most popular rap song ever
Thread proves people know little to nothing about production. Chopping a sample is no different than having session players. Those session players become co-producers. You're still arranging or re-arranging someone else's work to create a song. Then adding some drums or other elements. Finding samples is part of the production process. Humming a flow to give an artist an idea of how to approach the beat is part of the production process. Contributing ideas from who should be featured on the song is part of that process.
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
Most of this is true.
But it's like Mel-Man said recently, "Dre taught me how to use the MPC in new ways. That made me better. He can still get on that and kill every kind of beat". N*ggas need to stop acting like Dre is just an engineer. That whole argument is dumb as sh*t. But it's been repeated so many times, that the rest of the slow people have started saying it too.
Dre is the GOAT (not my personal GOAT, but the GOAT), for many reasons. But idiots needs to stop with this nonsense that he doesn't "make beats", as a producer. Dude does it all. Every legend that's sat with him in the past few years (Q-Tip, Erick Sermon, Lord Finesse, etc.), speaks on how Dre sits and makes beats. And how he helped them step up their own game. He's one of the rare people in music who can sit down and cook a beat on the MPC or SP, but also fill a room with live players and instruct them how to shape a track.
There are no "ghost producers" or people working on his sh*t behind the scenes that he takes credit for. Daz said Dre is so good at what he does, that people have to say "there's no way one person is that good at that sh*t". But he actually is. And the dummies who keep trying to discredit him or downplay his greatness, only prove how dope dude is.
Dr. Dre Rejected Working With Michael Jackson, Prince, Stevie Wonder Outta Fear
Michael Jackson and Prince are two names almost guaranteed to be on every artist's collab wishlist but not Dr. Dre's!
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Even dr dre know he aint him
Teddy Riley aint turnin that down.
Aint no need to bash dre cause this aint about that... but hes definitely in the more human stratosphere of our artists.
He only mixed a few songs, Ali still mixed more than half of the album