Is it just me or is Complex Magazine bad for the culture....

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This is awesome, right?

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Nobody gives a fukk about Complex offline

As far as people getting beat up, some of it is unwarranted, but you should be prepared to get into confrontation when you critique people who are already extremely sensitive.
 

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They're really just a bunch of cacs that cater to hypebeasts. I try to ignore them as much as possible because their opinions are irrelevant.
 

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Yup and smh at these chumps trying to defend it. Slime said "Well Black people should of defended it." :stopitslime:


nikka why the fukk do we gotta defend a culture that we started :wtf:. Why do these people feel they have to right to even get a opening on other people's cultures. How come we aint starting magazines where its a whole bunch of hood nikkas reviewing and "critiquing" country and rock music?:upsetfavre:


Cuz that is pretty much what Complex represents. A whole bunch of people from the outside looking in trying to dictate what is what and who is who. This is EXACTLY what Nipsey Hussle was trying to speak on in his rant against em, he had to slip and slide around using racial contations cuz he gotta keep in mind that his fanbase aint only black, n that looking like a "racist" aint a good look.

For the same reasons why we don't do it for hip-hop. We don't care enough.
 

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You're contradicting yourself bruh. On the one hand, you're mad that the hip hop that promotes "truth" and "consciousness" isn't getting a push, on the other hand you're pushing for the promotion of street artists who aren't "nerd rap" darlings. Guess what, "conscious rap" more often than not is labeled as nerd rap, often times by black people. Immortal Technique for example is labeled as a nerd rapper with only a fanbase of whites and suburban blacks, yet his content is most relevant towards people living in the hood

It just seems like Complex can't really win in this scenario. When they promote street dudes like Future, French or Meek(which they do all the time), they get criticized for promoting ignorant hip hop. When they promote more lyrical or out of the box artists they get criticized for promoting "nerd rap" that's not in touch with the streets

truth is, you can't really put hip hop fans, regardless of race or background in a box like that. some white people love ratchet/street shyt, some love lyrical conscious shyt, the same way that black people do. From my limited time at Complex, that's the blueprint that they worked from as far as the type of music that they promote.

This is the utter truth!

"Nerd Rap" on the realm of Rakim, KRS, Nas, Public Enemy gets shiited on by EVERYONE outside of their hardcore fanbases.
 

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This is the utter truth!

"Nerd Rap" on the realm of Rakim, KRS, Nas, Public Enemy gets shiited on by EVERYONE outside of their hardcore fanbases.

yep. especially by the younger generation.

i think the next rapper who can make catchy but laid back not outdated sounding music and fuse an uplifting message with "ignorant" raps thrown in without it feeling like the music is "conscious" and a homework lesson or something to listen to and can appeal to teens, as well 20 year olds will probably see some nice success. if new gen rappers want to make uplifting music and inspire, they need to do it in a modern way, not the 90's way. your avg below 30 year old hip hop listener now a days is listening to hip hop for it's catchy-ness...they want something they can either a. party to or b. just chill out and vibe to, something that doesn't take super brain muscle and concentration to listen to.

i think something like asap ferg's - hood pope is kinda a good perfect example of that. it's a chilled out song, with a catchy hook you can sing a lot to, but also speaks ills of the streets, with a bit of his own personal demons that he throws in. the lyricism isn't intricate or anything..pretty simple but regardless the message is still delivered.
 
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yep. especially by the younger generation.

i think the next rapper who can make catchy but laid back not outdated sounding music and fuse an uplifting message with "ignorant" raps thrown in without it feeling like the music is "conscious" and a homework lesson or something to listen to and can appeal to teens, as well 20 year olds will probably see some nice success. if new gen rappers want to make uplifting music and inspire, they need to do it in a modern way, not the 90's way. your avg below 30 year old hip hop listener now a days is listening to hip hop for it's catchy-ness...they want something they can either a. party to or b. just chill out and vibe to, something that doesn't take super brain muscle and concentration to listen to.

i think something like asap ferg's - hood pope is kinda a good perfect example of that. it's a chilled out song, with a catchy hook you can sing a lot to, but also speaks ills of the streets, with a bit of his own personal demons that he throws in. the lyricism isn't intricate or anything..pretty simple but regardless the message is still delivered.

That is why I say that Kendrick is the best chance for an uplifting MC that can balance the good and the bad and make a clear, cohesive message without sounding preachy.
 
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