Is Judaism a race or religion? Let’s talk about it.

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Discuss…since they throwing Whoopi under a bus for just stating what she said. To all my Jewish brehs…what are your thoughts?
 
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Visually many of them may look white but white people dont accept them as white, so......idk :manny:
 

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Currently a Non race specific Lineage even though it to the black man and it's a religion.
 

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Okay…so what make someone ethnically/racially a Jew?
Being White, as far as i know, they the only ones who can be non practicing atheists, but still consider themselves jewish because they got family who practice Judaism. Meanwhile if any of these arab or igbo jews people mention convert to Methodist or something. Nobody considers them jewish anymore.
 

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Visually many of them may look white but white people dont accept them as white, so......idk :manny:
Jewish is both an ethnic group and a religion.

You can have more European Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews, more Arab-looking Mizrahi Jews. You also have African Jews like those from Ethiopia. Even the Igbo tribe has a Jewish sect that follows their rites identically.
 

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Jewish is both an ethnic group and a religion.

You can have more European Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews, more Arab-looking Mizrahi Jews. You also have African Jews like those from Ethiopia. Even the Igbo tribe has a Jewish sect that follows their rites identically.
My point is that there is no such thing as a white jew.
 

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Its a religion. The original jews were black and arab in appearance. The 'Jewish features' that antisemites claim to be spotting is left over arab DNA. Bar Refaeli wouldn't be murdered by nazis, Seth Rogen would though because the curly dark hair is something they associate with jews.
 

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Initially, Jews are Middle-Easterners. The whole "Jews are White" is very recent, post WW2 basically, ain't no one before in Europe calling Jews white lmao. All the "scientifc racism" theories have Jews separated from White people. Precisely because originally they come from the ME AND practice another religion. So from the beginning both things got mixed up. For centuries European Jews have either married within the community or, for those who wanted to integrate and "lose" their Jewishness, married white people. Obviously after a couple centuries Jews started looking less different from White Christian Euros (why do you think Nazis needed all kinds of bureaucratic and "scientific" methods to determine who was Jew and who wasn't?). It's further complicated by the fact that indeed a lot of western Jews willingly became more "white" precisely because a. they were fed up with discrimination and b. wanted to distance themselves from...eastern Jews, who tended to prefer staying within the community. This is particularly true in France where Jews progressively abandonned signs of religion, if not religion itself, despite still considering themselves as "Jews". And, obviously, to distance themselves from North African and...Middle-Eastern Jews. Hell, to this day Ashkenazi Jews (the Euro ones, the ones people are the most familiar with and assume are the only Jews) still discriminate against Mizrahim Jews in Israël. White colonizers knew all this and used it, for example in Algeria, where Jews were granted french citizenship as opposed to Muslims, creating a division that was basically irrelevant for centuries before. White supremacy has co-opted Jews (well, Europeanized Jews) as the model minority post WW2 to try to erase centuries of antisemitism and to weaponize them against the common supposed "enemy", Muslims. But rest assured, when push comes to shove White people do not consider Jews as White people. Funny thing is that most extreme-right euro parties fully support Israël not only because they oppress a Muslim population, but because a healthy Israël means that more European Jews will leave Europe, which is what Euro antisemitism has wanted for centuries. That's also why Israël is a colonial state, because it was basically created by European Jews (supported by non-Jew Europeans, for obvious reasons).
 
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