IS killing of Chinese hostage: A game changer?

[ADevilYouKhow]

what's "surpressing" mean?

Suppressing *

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

Don't think China gets directly involved...I don't see what they would win by doing so they've managed to stay somewhat away from the middle-east clusterfukk until now and it's worked quite well for them...

Well china are involved directly or indirectly.. And the west has been talking about escelating their collective presence in the region since russia/someone actually started bombing isis.. Then you factor in paris and now theres apparently no other option, so its not unlikely that china would be forced to cover their ally.. Russia aint ready to lose the european gas market just yet, so to have it taken via changing the syrian leadership would destroy a major brics nation and drastically setback the move from western economic dependency for those nations. Looks like the end times are gonna be brought about by a bunch of cacs that think they own the world.

 

[mbewane]

Well china are involved directly or indirectly.. And the west has been talking about escelating their collective presence in the region since russia/someone actually started bombing isis.. Then you factor in paris and now theres apparently no other option, so its not unlikely that china would be forced to cover their ally.. Russia aint ready to lose the european gas market just yet, so to have it taken via changing the syrian leadership would destroy a major brics nation and drastically setback the move from western economic dependency for those nations. Looks like the end times are gonna be brought about by a bunch of cacs that think they own the world.

All of this doesn't explain why China would get directly involved militarily...the West can escalate as much as it wants, China acts according to its own policy. What Chinese ally are you talking about ? Because Assad is becoming part of the solution for the West, and Russia never needed China to "help" them. Russia is not losing the euro gas market any time soon, and that question isn't linked to Syria anyway (it's linked to Ukraine).

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

All of this doesn't explain why China would get directly involved militarily...the West can escalate as much as it wants, China acts according to its own policy.

you can speak on policy all you want, but policies are in place to support the ultimate goal. China doesnt want to be subject to western economic manipulation, and having its own central bank with a group of nations is the only way to fully realise this goal. As it stands, russia are chinas largest ally and are able to operate with far more indepenence than india, brazil or south africa. For this reason, china needs to look after its common interest with those other nations, and having russia lose that natural gas market would effectively be 'game over' for putin.

What Chinese ally are you talking about ? Because Assad is becoming part of the solution for the West, and Russia never needed China to "help" them.

He's only the solution NOW as he has russia assisting in his back yard. If the west continued to call for his head in the middle of isis' rise, it would be too difficult to spin and the resulting vacuum would echo of the iraq and libya situations that led to this problem in the first place. Assad does not need or want western forces right now, that shyts gonna have him more uneasy than anything.

Russia is not losing the euro gas market any time soon, and that question isn't linked to Syria anyway (it's linked to Ukraine).

no, its linked to syria, which along with iran has blocked a deal to allow qatari pipelines go through the country and reach europe. Conveniently, assad became the most wanted man in the world soon after.

The Qatar-Turkey pipeline is a proposed natural gas pipeline running from the Iranian-Qatari South Pars / North Dome Gas-Condensate fieldtowards Turkey, where it could connect with the Nabucco pipeline to supply European customers as well as Turkey. One route to Turkey is via Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria,[1][2] and another is through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq.[3][4] Syria's rationale for rejecting the Qatar proposal was said to be "to protect the interests of [its] Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas."[1]

In 2012 an analyst cited by Ansa Mediterranean suggested that Qatar's involvement in the Syrian civil war was based in part on its desire to build a pipeline to Turkey through Syria:

Qatar-Turkey pipeline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This war has nothing to do with the alleged reports of 'assad attacking his own people,' otherwise countries like saudi would be reprimanded in a similar manner

 

[mbewane]

you can speak on policy all you want, but policies are in place to support the ultimate goal. China doesnt want to be subject to western economic manipulation, and having its own central bank with a group of nations is the only way to fully realise this goal. As it stands, russia are chinas largest ally and are able to operate with far more indepenence than india, brazil or south africa. For this reason, china needs to look after its common interest with those other nations, and having russia lose that natural gas market would effectively be 'game over' for putin. He's only the solution NOW as he has russia assisting in his back yard. If the west continued to call for his head in the middle of isis' rise, it would be too difficult to spin and the resulting vacuum would echo of the iraq and libya situations that led to this problem in the first place. Assad does not need or want western forces right now, that shyts gonna have him more uneasy than anything. no, its linked to syria, which along with iran has blocked a deal to allow qatari pipelines go through the country and reach europe. Conveniently, assad became the most wanted man in the world soon after.

The Qatar-Turkey pipeline is a proposed natural gas pipeline running from the Iranian-Qatari South Pars / North Dome Gas-Condensate fieldtowards Turkey, where it could connect with the Nabucco pipeline to supply European customers as well as Turkey. One route to Turkey is via Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria,[1][2] and another is through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq.[3][4] Syria's rationale for rejecting the Qatar proposal was said to be "to protect the interests of [its] Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas."[1]

In 2012 an analyst cited by Ansa Mediterranean suggested that Qatar's involvement in the Syrian civil war was based in part on its desire to build a pipeline to Turkey through Syria:

Qatar-Turkey pipeline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This war has nothing to do with the alleged reports of 'assad attacking his own people,' otherwise countries like saudi would be reprimanded in a similar manner

The EU just eased relations with Russia after the small embargo they put up after the whole Ukraine thing. There's been talks for years about this or that pipeline, we all know that, but we still haven't seen any results. At the end of the day existing pipelines going through eastern Europe will always be more secure than "proposed" pipelines in the middle-east.

And even so when did China ever militarily intervene to support Russia? They hardly said anything about Ukraine.

 

[Reginald Noble]

The Chinese would be able to obliterate them completely in minutes with no international political repercussions. They had no business fukking with Chinese they have never been involved in U.S. or European imperialism and actually serve as a counter-balance to it.

ISIS fukked up and now they are going to be exterminated. The Chinese have enough military funding, people and resources to wage a 100 year war in the Middle East. If another hostage situation happens with a Chinese citizen - It's a wrap for these crazed turbanheads.