is lebron the goat player for gettinf to the finals mutlple times wihtout a great head coach?

Originalman

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Said it last year after he got to the finals with Blatt. Dude took a black coach, an Asian coach and a white Jewish coach to the finals.

All that is missing is him taking a 1 eyed alien coach from Venus to the finals.

I still say curry daughter Riley could have coached that Cavs team last year to the finals. Lord knows she probably would have remembered how many time outs they would have had left late in the 4th vs the Bulls.:mjlol::bryan::deadmanny::laff::laff::laff:
 

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Probably out of all the other top 10-15 players. Always had consistently average or meh coaches it seems like

Jordan had PJax
Russell had Auerbach and himself
Kareem had Larry Costello (Bucks) and Westhead and Riley
Wilt had Alex Hannum (super underrated) and Butch VBK (he was ok but they didn't really like each other lol)
Magic had Westhead, Riley and Mike Dunleavy Sr. (decent coach but no Riley). Magic in '91 was still :ohlawd:
Bird had Fitch and KC Jones (KC was cool, really underrated coach)
Shaq had PJax and Brian Hill (idk much about Hill)
Duncan has/had Pop
Hakeem had Fitch and Tomjanovich
Kobe had PJax


Jerry West (Elgin too) is probably closest to LeBron in terms of the types of coaches he was under. Over his 9 finals appearances he was coached by Fred Schaus (who even is that) and Butch Van Breda Kolff (again decent coach but he clashed with Wilt in a fukkin Game 7 of a Finals game and Wilt refused to play for him in the final minutes. So West can probably thank him for one of those Ls). West and Baylor were just so damn unlucky :mjcry:
 
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This is the luxury of playing in a conference where only 2 teams are contenders.
Came to say this.

To add on, he's far and away the best player in the conference. 90% of the elite talent in the NBA is in the west and has been for years.
 

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Bit of a Stan argument but :ehh: the nikka has had one good coach in his career...my nikka Silas...:shaq: and that was when he was Raw...would he accept a Pop or a Thibs :yeshrug: but yeah....one of the best
 

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So if he had better coaches he woulda won those Finals he lost?:jbhmm:
 

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He's not the GOAT. Not even the Top 5.

David Blatt won Euroleague championships and shyt, Spolstra has Pat Riley looking over his shoulder

Derek Fischer is an awful coach. Jason Kidd is an awful coach.
Those guys are just "coaches". Get over yourselves, I'm sick of Lebron stans coming up with these bs reasons to call him goat.


How about I make a Steph Curry's the GOAT thread because he hit 400 3s in a season, led the team with the most wins in NBA history, and beat a genetic freak like lebron in the finals the first time he met him. Plus his superhuman reflex times.


But I don't, because I'm not so insecure about the teams I like that I need to try and force my favorite players into pantheons that they haven't earned with stupid reasons.

:camby:
 

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David Blatt has one of the best resumes, and Erik Spolstra is not some scrub. Wouldn't call him elite, but he is solid.
 

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If you're going to give him credit for getting to the Finals without a head coach, implying that he is the head coach...

Then he has to take the blame for all those goddamn Finals losses without a head coach, implying that he is the head coach...
 

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If you're going to give him credit for getting to the Finals without a head coach, implying that he is the head coach...

Then he has to take the blame for all those goddamn Finals losses without a head coach, implying that he is the head coach...
Would u take any of brons coaches over any other coach to win a title from the last 25 years? Im not even a stan and im low key question how mang he could have won had he let a legit coach on to his teams
 
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