Is Pharrell number one for longevity as a top producer in the game?

[TheDarceKnight]

You said longevity. The songs on TLOP are 32 years since Rick Tubin started and those songs he was a part of were the bangers. Pharell don't got 32 years of producing so the answer is still Rick Rubin.

You're right. He don't got 32 years. He's got 33 years. He's got credits on this.

 

[Plankton]

Rick Rubin has never programmed a damn drum hit or anything in his life. I hope you know this when you and many others keep mentioning him behind legends like Pharrell

That goof curates the recording experience he's a studio coach. And people still continue to glaze him.



I expect much more from a rap subforum. No he is not the answer unless the question is what does white privilege look like

Rick Rubin is a curator.

One rock band said they hired him for big money and he laid down on a sofa closing his eyes for a couple hours, opened them and said “take that sound out” then went home.

You can put a different spin on it all you want but Rick Rubin is a producer similar to P Diddy. When Nirvana hired Steve Albini to "produce" In Utero him being labeled a "producer" wasn't dissected like you are doing now. If we don't do that to Steve Albini we not all of a sudden changing the rules and doing it to Rick Rubin. The thread title says "producer" not beat maker.

 

[Plankton]

Ahh yes, hip hop legends The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Imagine Dragons

Pharrell produced for pop legends Britney Spears and Justine Timberlake. Notice how you didn't speak on Pharell doing music outside of Hip Hop when OP suggested his name but you here doing it for Rick and think you have merit in your words.

 

[bigde09]

Rick Rubin was on Lil Uzi Verts 'Pink Tape' which dropped last year.

In the 2010's he was on:

Kanye West – Yeezus
Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2
Wu-Tang Clan – A Better Tomorrow
GoldLink – And After That, We Didn't Talk
Kanye West – The Life of Pablo
Eminem – Revival


The answer is Rick Rubin.

A few of those albums sucked and he was a big part of the reason why

 

[Plankton]

He don’t? Bro was legit making songs w/ Teddy Riley

You're right. He don't got 32 years. He's got 33 years. He's got credits on this.

I knew it was only a matter of time before history rewriters would come in here and bring up Rump Shaker and Teddy Riley. Pharell wrote on Rump Shaker. He didn't produce anything on that song. Thread title says "producer" not "song writer." Like I said, Pharrell don't got 32 years in the game like Rick Rubin.

 

[mrvaughn]

Pharrell produced for pop legends Britney Spears and Justine Timberlake. Notice how you didn't speak on Pharell doing music outside of Hip Hop when OP suggested his name but you here doing it for Rick and think you have merit in your words.

I am OP I don’t even understand what you are trying to say here.

 

[mrvaughn]

You can put a different spin on it all you want but Rick Rubin is a producer similar to P Diddy. When Nirvana hired Steve Albini to "produce" In Utero him being labeled a "producer" wasn't dissected like you are doing now. If we don't do that to Steve Albini we not all of a sudden changing the rules and doing it to Rick Rubin. The thread title says "producer" not beat maker.

Ahh yes, of course… Diddy always comes up in lists of all time hip hop producers

 

[Plankton]

I am OP I don’t understand what you are trying to say here.

You don't understand because you are purposely playing dumb. Why are you stressing Rick Rubin producing The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Imagine Dragons not being Hip Hop yet ignoring Pharrell producing music for Britney Sprears and Justin Timberlake who also aren't Hip Hop? Thread tile says "producer" and doesn't specify genre. If you are bringing up Pharell who does music outside of Hip Hop then Rick Rubin qualifies too because no one takes away anything from Pharell being a Hip Hop producer just because he did "Blurred Lines" for Robin Thick or "Happy" for himself.

 

[Bugzbunny129]

This here.

No one has the amount of work, and the consistency, on the level of ALC or Q-Tip. Tip's been doing it since the late 80's. Ridiculous amount of classic tracks. And he's still better than everybody on the boards. Longevity, you gotta mention dudes like Dre and Premier. Definitely Diamond, Pete, Madlib, etc.

Can't really count P because he was part of a production duo for most of his career, so 1/2 that credit goes to Chad.

Alc is overrated. Hes just only one working with dozens of new artists in new age to keep his name out there. But none of those songs touching 90s clsssics and he has never reached a peak like qtip, rza, premier, pete where entire albums are ground breaking beat after groundbreaking beat in their own style.



He is king of the “good” albums. Listenable for the year. They aint great tho. Thats why his singles are always so much better than rest of album. Ive never seen him do it an entire album on a 10/10 level.

Muggs is the same way for past 20. But his albums feel more like albums.

 

[Plankton]

Ahh yes, of course… Diddy always comes up in lists of all time hip hop producers

Dr Dre then.

Between Mel Man & Daz...Dre has always been accused of having others do the beat and Dre coming in and adding his one two one two and claiming all the credit yet he is still herald as one of the greatest producers in Hip Hop history. So the rules aren't changing for Diddy or Rick Rubin.


And your thread title says "producer" not "beat maker." Diddy and Rick Rubin are renown "producers." Next time specify "beat maker" if thats what you are really trying to point out.

 

[mrvaughn]

You don't understand because you are purposely playing dumb. Why are you stressing Rick Rubin producing The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Imagine Dragons not being Hip Hop yet ignoring Pharrell producing music for Britney Sprears and Justin Timberlake who also aren't Hip Hop? Thread tile says "producer" and doesn't specify genre. If you are bringing up Pharell who does music outside of Hip Hop then Rick Rubin qualifies too because no one takes away anything from Pharell being a Hip Hop producer just because he did "Blurred Lines" for Robin Thick or "Happy" for himself.

Ok I agree you do have a point there. But Rick’s contributions to hip hop for a long time have been kinda ass, so I think myself and most others here won’t place him alongside Pharrell in this particular conversation. Not being pedantic. It’s just how I see it.

 

[FlyGuy]

I don’t care if I catch hate for this, a lot of producers that I listen to…I’d listen to their instrumentals because the beat is THAT good.

There’s not 1 instrumental from Pharrell that I desire to listen to.

Probably Swizz Beats too.

They can make good music at times but a top producer can make an instrumental a song it’s self too.

Not even Mr Me Too ?

 

[thernbroom]

Kanye is better

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

You can put a different spin on it all you want but Rick Rubin is a producer similar to P Diddy. When Nirvana hired Steve Albini to "produce" In Utero him being labeled a "producer" wasn't dissected like you are doing now. If we don't do that to Steve Albini we not all of a sudden changing the rules and doing it to Rick Rubin. The thread title says "producer" not beat maker.

Nope. Eat a dikk worshipping white privilege. We dot play that. Nobody listing puffy in those best of lists so why would you put Rick there. Moron. There's facts and logic. No spin. The myth of Rick Rubin is just that a myth.

Now notice you keep talking about rock "producers" that wasn't what this thread was about. Rap doesn't follow Rock rules. Rap producers are the musicians, the backdrop... we don't have bands on average the producer is the band. Are you retarded friend? First you mention that goof then you try to act like rap and rock are 1:1. Nope.

Stop trying to insert that far lazy entitled piece of shyt into the rap lists.