Is the Native American Struggle = or > than the African American Struggle?

[MeachTheMonster]

Breh, they couldn't pro-create because they were getting killed directly or indirectly by the new settlers.

If I'm a Native American, I'll be looking around like I'm the last of the Mohicans

genocide[ jen-uh-sahyd ]
noun
1.*the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

What happened to the Native Americans wasn't genocide. Yes there numbers were dramatically reduced. But buy definition it wasn't genocide. The holocaust was genocide.

 

[Lakers Offseason]

genocide[ jen-uh-sahyd ]
noun
1.*the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

What happened to the Native Americans wasn't genocide. Yes there numbers were dramatically reduced. But buy definition it wasn't genocide. The holocaust was genocide.

I never said they were the victims of genocide

 

[MeachTheMonster]

No....they were systematically exterminated.

That's much different than being absorbed into another group.

Not true. This was the end result, but it wasn't because white people wanted to eradicate the earth of Native Americans

 

[NYC Rebel]

Not true. This was the end result, but it wasn't because white people wanted to eradicate the earth of Native Americans

They wanted to eradicate them from getting in the way of the things they wanted from them.

That sounds like being systematically exterminated

 

[MeachTheMonster]

They wanted to eradicate them from getting in the way of the things they wanted from them.

That sounds like being systematically exterminated

Ok bruh, I'm not gonna argue with you over the interpretation of that phrase. I just think people who are in this thread talking out of their ass should really read up on history. It's not as simple as to say white people landed in boats and killed all the indians. There is allot of History in between there that people don't know about.

 

[Bstacks]

Either way

 

[GreatestLaker]

Someone answer this. Why do you motherfukkers still call them Indians?

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Whites did wage genocide on the natives by using smallpox and typhus.You nikkas don't think the whites didn't figure out that Natives didn't have an immunity to that shyt? Don't be so damn naive.

"You will do well to inoculate the Indians by means of blankets, as well as every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race."

This shyt is basic middle school knowledge.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Whites did wage genocide on the natives by using smallpox and typhus.You nikkas don't think the whites didn't figure out that Natives didn't have an immunity to that shyt? Don't be so damn naive.

This shyt is basic middle school knowledge.

^^^^^^^what is that from?

 

[feelosofer]

too tired lazy to read this thread, but to me the answer is pretty fukin simple.

how many native americans do ya'll even kno? any? i aint talmbout no 1/8 native american or like 1/16. a full blooded indian. there aint non left.

this was a fukin entire continent filled wid numerous indian tribes. them doods got completely anhillated. that would be the equivalent of like africa jus being completely destroyed.

native americans got fukin wiped off the map. there aint no native american struggle. them fools are dust in the wind yo. another few generations and they'll be completely gone imo. alcoholism, suicide, and interracial marriages, and tehre will be none left.

This, I'm 1/16 Native American and that is a lot compared to a many people. There were millions upon millions of Natives across the US, and they were wiped the fukked out. Don't get me wrong we as African-Americans have had it harder than anyone, all except the Native Americans. Also, my Native Great Great grandfather, was named Independence, want to know why, because he was a SLAVE. He was so dark most white people couldn't tell the difference.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

^^^^^^^what is that from?

Letter written by Lord Jeffrey Amherst to Henry Bonquet.Discussing the use of smallpox blankets.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Letter written by Lord Jeffrey Amherst to Henry Bonquet.Discussing the use of smallpox blankets.

They talk about that in detail in Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel" book.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

They talk about that in detail in Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel" book.

Good shyt..never heard of this.I'll see if i can get this in e-book form..

 

[MeachTheMonster]

This, I'm 1/16 Native American and that is a lot compared to a many people. There were millions upon millions of Natives across the US, and they were wiped the fukked out. Don't get me wrong we as African-Americans have had it harder than anyone, all except the Native Americans. Also, my Native Great Great grandfather, was named Independence, want to know why, because he was a SLAVE. He was so dark most white people couldn't tell the difference.

Thing is there are plenty of people with Native American blood. And there are not too many black people left with pure African blood. As black people no matter how much black you got in you your going to identify as black. Native Americans only identify as such if they are pure blooded. But if there was a way to compare numbers of pure blooded native Americans to pure blooded black folks. I'm sure the numbers would be pretty equal.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

This, I'm 1/16 Native American and that is a lot compared to a many people. There were millions upon millions of Natives across the US, and they were wiped the fukked out. Don't get me wrong we as African-Americans have had it harder than anyone, all except the Native Americans. Also, my Native Great Great grandfather, was named Independence, want to know why, because he was a SLAVE. He was so dark most white people couldn't tell the difference.

No it isn't....many northern/western black people have at LEAST 16th in the blood.

I got 1/8 my damn self.....


However, i wouldn't call the native-american paradox a genocide per se. They weren't rounded up and exterminated or anything like that. I think it was a series of unfortunate and malicious tactics/practices by whites (such as the smallpox blankets).

The trail of tears is perhaps the 1st RECORDED instance of specific Native-American oppression that we really have. Other forms are too left open to really discuss. However, as previously stated the Holocaust was a genocide, the Hutu/Tutsis was genocide, the Sudan massacres were genocide....

I think Native-Americans were just in the way when it came to American colonization. It sucks but like i said i don't think they were systematically destroyed...the megalomaniacs hadn't even got there yet.