Is Tyler the new Ye?

Iverson_64

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Probably yes for this generation but prime Ye had a much stronger appeal to the culture than Tyler.

Think about Ye songs like Jesus Walks, Slow Jamz, Gold Digger, Flashing Lights, Can't Tell Me Nothin, Touch The Sky, Mercy, Clique, NIP, Otis, Famous, etc. Or his beats for others like Heart Of The City, This Can't Be Life, Encore, You Don't Know My Name, the album Be, the album Daytona, Stand Up, Dreams, I Don't F*ck With You, etc.

Ye just has much more range and broader appeal even though Tyler's more consistent. Some of Ye's music got played heavily in the clubs, streets, urban radio, etc. while other songs were more crossover and appealed to casuals and others were more artsy/experimental and appealed to hipsters.

But Tyler has a strong run and legacy independent of Ye though. Plus, Ye has fallen off so there's always room to fill in that lane for the new generation.
 
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ye was middle child and then hype beast crowd
ty is cartoon network watchin and edgy crowd
not the same vibes at all

and then, tyler raps for real.

but we're dealing with consumers who would confuse the term average with median so......yeah i can see how they can just be lumped together just because something as simple as a charlie wilson feature
 

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Nah

But as someone that didn't like Tyler (but for some reason the whole Odd Future thing didn't bug me) I respect his ability to evolve, something his imitator (Hopsin) couldn't do.

Also, him and Vince Staples need to do a comedy movie together or something, ain't no reason for them two to be as funny as they are. No dry shyt either, keep it black.
 

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More of a Do Over of Ye:

  • Instead of relying and begging the labels, he did his own thing and capitalize off of the blog era
  • Instead of throwing his squad under the bus, he tried to make them eat throughout the time (Brandun Deshay a different story but eh)
  • Honest with his stance on being an atheist (as a christian marsupial I respect it, than what Ye been and was trying to do)
  • Stayed true with his music while Ye kinda went left field production wise and lyrics
  • Tyler's controversy is more on gimmick, while Ye is a fukking walking disaster and dumpster fire
  • Tyler can't stand those fukking crackers despite having a white fanbase, while Ye became them fukking crackers for his white fanbase
  • Both discographies somewhat aged (especially b*stard)
Tyler basically what Kanye should have been from the upstart. While his new album is semi Ass, I respect the grind and him standing focus on making music that he enjoys, instead of following waves.
 

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I guess he means that Tyler doesn't use writers.

Ye uses writers majority of the time but his best verses are better than Tyler's best. But I get that people would give more credit to an actual writer than a producer rapper like Ye.

Writer's aid aside though, I haven't heard Tyler rap as well as Ye on All Falls Down, Can't Tell Me Nothin, No More Parties in LA, Saint Pablo, Otis, Gorgeous, or Diamonds From Sierra Leone to name a few.

Tyler's a better rapper than Ye currently though.
 

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Yeah it’s zoomers primarily hyping it up but people going hard in the new Tyler thread saying the music is good and classic. Idk why but he rubs me the wrong way with his attitude.

People make the comparison because they both make music outside of the box and both have successful clothing lines but I’d still rather take a washed ye over a prime Tyler. His production sounds like a b*stardized version of the neptunes. Meant to post this yesterday but y’all know this site be tripping
 

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Petty Vandross.. fukk Yall
More like what pharrell's solo career should've been

He's def a better rapper than kanye and has lower highs but a more consistent discog

Kanye is completely washed, so I hope he just quits after his next train wreck of an album rollout drops
Him being around Pharrell is definitely the right answer
If you look at where he started with Odd Future until now
You see the influence P had on him
He even mentioned in a song but it just eludes me right now
Even looking at his branding
From Golf Wang to Golf Le Fleur
shyts damn near identical to Ps trajectory
Pharrell has a lot of sons in this game
One could even argue his influence on Ye
But you didn’t read/see/hear that from me:sas2:
 
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Him being around Pharrell is definitely the right answer
If you look at where he started with Odd Future until now
You see the influence P had on him
He even mentioned in a song but it just eludes me right now
Even looking at his branding
From Golf Wang to Golf Le Fleur
shyts damn near identical to Ps trajectory
Pharrell has a lot of sons in this game
One could even argue his influence on Ye
But you didn’t read/see/hear that from me:sas2:
Ehh….i agree in a sense but I’d more so call them contemporaries.
 
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